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Simply being an AA with average grades (3.3 and lower) and test scores (1800 or lower SATs and/or APs under 4) applying out of either NCS/STA will not open any Ivy league doors unless you're legacy or an elite athlete.  [/quote]

AA out of STA is not a hook (because AA is not in itself a hook); however, AA is always URM at Harvard and other Ivies. Believe it: it's true. [/quote]

Of course, URM status at Harvard or any of the other Ivies is an hook.

AA applicants from STA with average/below gpas & test scores are in for a rude awakening if they think that the Ivies will be interested in them.  Unless they're legacy, recruited athletes, or have parents with connections to governing boards, the Ivies are out of reach.[/quote]

These are conflicting, but I don't know which is correct. Ivies are generally looking for 2200 SATs or above, for unhooked, non-URM kids. Even 2200+ SATs is no guarantee, by any means. So if the first poster says all you need is 1800+ SATs and URM, then that's an advantage, whatever else you call it. The 2nd poster says even the URMs need great (i.e. 2200+) SATs.

Anybody know who is right?[/quote]

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