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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]OMG

I can't believe 100+ pages of blaming parents for this?

Where TF is Jeff Steele?  I understand clicks will put his own kids through college, but a little bit of empathy is in order here.

What a disgusting thread.  [/quote]

I'm the OP of this thread.  I rarely am an OP, but I started it because I'm so sad, shocked, heartbroken (there aren't even words to describe) about this tragedy.  I wish I could process it, but it is beyond horrifying.  Maybe it's because I grew up near Disney and have such happy childhood memories (and now have a toddler boy of my own) that this little boy's death really hit me.

I should have foreseen that this would devolve into a blame the parents debate.  Apparently I gave DCUM too much credit and thought that other parents would be sympathetic.  Some of the nasty responses on here just make me even more sad. [/quote]

I don't blame the parents.  I think Disney is getting a raw deal also.   I went to Polynesian resort in 1973. Shortly after it opened.  Disney rented boats to anyone to go on that lake.  I dropped of my parent on one of the islands and then picked them back up.  People had no fears of anything in the water then.  I vaguely remember a pool right on the beach and wandering around the beach at night after a lua dinner.

Still Disney should pay and pay  big time.  Someone in their companies was responsible for safety. Someone fell down on the job

Probably because they started hiring Guest workers to do US workers job. They deserve to pay.

https://jonathanturley.org/2016/02/26/the-happiest-place-on-earth-disney-outsources-more-jobs-to-foreign-workers-while-asking-existing-workers-to-donate-part-of-their-wages-to-support-lobbyists/[/quote]

Setting aside for a moment the axe you're grinding about guest workers, I think that, if Disney is guilty of anything, it's not being sufficiently aware of the rise in the number of alligators in Florida.   In 1973, when your parents were on the island in the lagoon, the alligator was on the endangered species list:

"During the 1960s the alligator population continued to diminish. Poaching of the alligator was widespread, and because of a loophole in state laws, authorities were unable to shut down an interstate network of illegal hide dealers. Finally, in 1967, the American Alligator was placed on the first Endangered Species List. In 1970, federal regulations were imposed that effectively shut down the illegal alligator market, and the populations of alligators began to rebound. It has been speculated that perhaps the alligator population was never as low as originally thought, but that the alligator had just become more adept at eluding humans.

"In 1977, the alligator was reclassified from an endangered to a threatened species. This change in status allowed the alligator once again to be available for commercial use. During the 1980s the alligator came to be viewed as a renewable resource, and several alligator management programs were instituted by the State of Florida. These programs allowed for controlled hunting of the alligator by private individuals and the collection of eggs and hatchlings by licensed alligator farms.

"Alligator farming is now a thriving business, with an estimated 30+ alligator farms in the State of Florida. This multi-million dollar industry generates approximately 300,000 pounds of meat and over 15,000 skins a year. Alligator meat averages $5-$7 a pound wholesale, and while skin prices vary year to year, the average price is $25 per foot. Currently, it is estimated that the state of Florida is home to over 1,000,000 alligators, not counting those raised on commercial alligator farms."[/quote]

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