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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I know ordinary people are just pawns but what is the best way to stop civilian casualties on both sides? Seems like Russia can’t be stopped from bombing Ukraine. Seems like Ukraine is getting better and better at bombing Russia too. Both sides are saying it’s strictly strategic and military objects but it’s not so.
What is the way to stop the war while minimizing civilian casualties? Russia isn’t puling out. Ukraine isn’t giving in. 
There needs to be someone who actually cares about civilians. Neither side does. 
I am probably completely naive but it’s so sad. [/quote]

Neither side?  Ukraine is fighting for its survival.  Russia on the other hand is just on a violent drunken expansionist binge.  Huge difference.[/quote]

Ok why is Russia not being defeated? Seems like their threats are just for show? Why is all this allowed to go on?[/quote]

Russia's already lost more than half of its operational military capability.  They are already struggling to contain invasions into their own territory.[/quote]

And yet...Ukraine needs more and more and more and more money and materiel to fight this depleted, struggling army.  Go figure, huh.  Should have been a slam dunk, if these reports are to be believed. [/quote]

No, this is understandable. What’s not understandable is why (if Russia is bluffing) does nato not become direct party to conflict?
The only explanation I can think of is they want to grind Russia down as much as possible, wear it out, and who cares how many Russians and Ukrainians die [/quote]

It's about protecting Ukrainian sovereignty.  Russia getting ground down in the process is entirely Russia's problem.[/quote]

But Ukrainians are also dying. Why not just deal a big blow to Russia and end it? I don’t get it [/quote]

Simply because they can't. The Ukraine is likely not able to launch attacks of any size anymore. It would take NATO troops months to even begin to stage in sufficient number to do anything.

And despite the propaganda about ancient weapons and starving troops, it would be incredibly costly to NATO to try and dislodge Russia from the Donbass. It would be a bloody and costly conflict right before an election season kicks off.

And that's assuming no one uses nukes and China doesn't get involved. [/quote]
PP you responded to. I do think the Russian army is weakened and morale is low. I think they could be easily pushed back - maybe not from the Crimea but from the rest of the country - by nato troops. That’s why I am surprised they don’t “just do it”.
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