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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Record execs duped her fans into rebuying all of her old albums under the guise of the masters being stolen and she tricked the big bad execs by re-recording everything. Y’all are  hopeless saps. [/quote]Do your research first before responding. You’re wrong on why she recorded them [/quote]

NP. She recorded them to devalue her old masters. Duped her fans into buying them with the sob story that they were bought out from under her. Gotta hand it to the petty b****. [/quote]

Are the feminists still here with us? Or are we just giving up the ruse that they were ever for women?[/quote]

Wait a minute- are you saying you can only be a feminist if you support Taylor? Or only if you support all women regardless of principle?

Or are you saying you bought into her grift that by buying her albums again again you were support women against big bad men?

I don’t need to support all women when I disagree with them principle nor do I have to support Taylor swift to be a feminist. Why (other than you bought her crap) would you ever think you have to support all women even if you disagree with them?[/quote]

NP. No one is forcing you to buy her music so I don’t get where the animosity is coming from. I’ve never purchased a single item but still like her music. It’s possible. But to your other point, yeah kind of. If no one is getting hurt and it’s all just a business model that hurts no one but you just happen to disagree with, yeah I still think women should support women who are changing the status quo. And she has and did. They literally teach business law classes based on her approach. I think any feminist would support that success, as well as her advice and help she gives to upcoming artists. But whatever. [/quote]

I have read she has actually hurt up coming artists with the way her handled the business. Here is a law school talking about how contracts have changed for the worse for artists because of how Taylor’s team handled the situation. She just made the system more capitalist.

https://uclawreview.org/2024/03/27/look-what-you-made-them-do-the-impact-of-taylor-swifts-re-recording-project-on-record-labels/

And Harvard: https://hls.harvard.edu/today/how-taylor-swift-changed-the-copyright-game-by-remaking-her-own-music/

In response, record companies are now trying to prohibit re-recordings for 20 or 30 years, not just two or three. And this has become a key part of contract negotiations. “Will they get 30 years? Probably not, if the lawyer is competent. But they want to make sure that the artist’s vocal cords are not in good shape by the time they get around to re-recording.”
This, he noted, begged the question of why an artist would even want to sign a record contract in the age of TikTok and Spotify. “Number one, there is the pride involved. If you were The Who in the ’60s, you could trash a hotel room and the label would clean up the mess. Of course it would come out of future royalties, but they would do it. But what you have to ask yourself is, is it worth it?”
This may not be an issue for most artists who sign to record labels — but it likely will be for a select few.
“Very few people have the power of a Taylor Swift, but nobody knows who the next Taylor Swift will be,” Greenstein said. “So, if you are a lawyer, you will represent your client zealously.”

Not that many artists have a stock broker/ financial analyst as a Dad who is backing their career.  Taylor was able to have her career because of her Dad’s money.    Apparently he even helped negotiate Taylor out of the Blake Lively court case.  I don’t see that as particularly feminist. [/quote]

What’s 100% anti feminist is continuing to give her father credit for her career, over and over and over.[/quote]

Well, he took credit for it in that letter when he also talked about his private parts not working.

He ran a bizas a stockbroker. TS did not come from the womb understanding how to become a pop star.

Her daddy paid her way ($1m or more he wrote) and even bought a lot of her early albums.

It is not anti-woman to point out the work that he himself says he did. She would be nothing without her dad.

Her parents have controlled her for a long time.

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Are you a Beyonce fan by chance?[/quote]

Not the person you are arguing with, but at least maintain consistency with the argument you are presenting (That “Taylor is a feminist and pro all women and all women should stand up for each other”) and not bring up other women to compare her too in the middle of that argument.

Make it make a little bit of sense. 
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DP.  You have totally missed the point, as expected.[/quote]

Explain it to me then. Without throwing Beyoncé’s name out there and saying Beyoncé is controlled by her family and husband because that is comparing two very successful women and not upholding the swiftie bro code of no women can be for women’s rights and criticize a successful woman. I’d love to know the argument.[/quote]

I mean, Beyonce married her groomer yet people take issue with Taylor’s love life. Please.[/quote]

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