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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]My unpopular opinion..

As a Dem I think their shutdown strategy of holding the line on premiums is a losing one.

Like it or not, the GOO has the upper hand with Trump at the helm.  Sooner or later, the govt needs to reopen. The shut down creates a distraction for Trump and proj 2025 to leverage opportunities. A lot can happen in the shutdown with him as Pres, legally or not.

The better strategy is to use the leverage of anger when GOP increases costs to bring more folks to the Dem side.  If you are a Dem, you support what they are doing but those independents and GOP folks are who you want to convince. The way to do that is not to inflict more pain and ultimately lose this fight but to jet the pain happen and say - hey vote for us instead!

The only thing happening now is pain for all.  This is nothing but a damn show out in by the Dems to court public favor- to say hey - aren't we cool?! They are not. I put money on the fact that the only people who will be backing down to reopen the govt will be Dems as GOP are clearly anti gov.  This is exactly what they want.  As long as the right people get paid - those in their side - they win.

This whole mess is the Dem debacle and I'm a Dem.  This is just not the right fight to have.  Not at all.  They will end up in a weaker position than the start because they won't have gained anything.

This is how Trump win the Presidency - they built a org, a momentum, a team, a cause.  It's what the Dems should be doing.  What's going on now is the people working separately from political leadership and that's what the Dems need to fix. 
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As an independent, this take seems off to me.  Both Johnson and Thune are starting to get antsy.  It's not surprising that Johnson might be flailing - he is going to lose the Speakership, the only question is how quickly the day will come -, but now Thune is too.  [/quote]

Yes. Johnson and Thune got lazy and assumed some of the Ds would continue to bail them out.

Also. Johnson and Thune probably didn’t expect Trump to own the shutdown as completely as he has. [/quote]

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