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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]How about Michelle Obama? Or a celebrity we'll just run themselves with confident people?[/quote] Stop with the political dynasties already!! Can’t you see that is why we are in this position right now? [/quote] I generally assume that people suggesting HRC, Mrs Obama or any celebrity are trolling. I think HRC would do great, actually, but she’s not interested. She won in 2016 and instead we got the great treason weasel.[/quote] HRC did not win in 2016. [/quote] Eh. HRC won. [/quote] Nope. Not by our country's long established process. If you dont like it, then work to get it changed. Otherwise, you're no better than Trump complaining that he really won reelection.[/quote] Yes, we are still better ffs. Because we're not actually trying to prevent the orderly transition of power, and we're not encouraging violent insurrection. We're pointing out that the majority of voters wanted something different - VERY different - from what we got. [/quote] You clearly haven't read all the posts in this thread and others [/quote] 88% of americans favor some form of Roe 88% of americans facor some form of gun control and red flag laws The majority of americans favor democrats and liberal policies. Facts matter.[/quote] Isn't the beauty of local and state elections that votes are basically these polls where they take the consensus and make that policy? So what is the point of bringing up polls. Let the voting booths speak for themselves. This is more of a general comment because whenever I see polls being brought up in political debates I don't really get it lol. [/quote] Some rights are inherent to our Constitution. The current SC is now treating the Constitution like prescriptive legislation, when in fact it is a guiding document of ideals. It should NOT take legislation to have control of your health. Your position is anti-liberty. You want state governments to take away your option for medical treatment you might need. According to you, a state could ban insulin or kidney transplants....right? And then the voters are required to wait until the next election to vote in representatives who will make kidney transplants legal again? That's an insane and unconstitutional burden to place upon the voters. It's sheer chaos. [/quote] Almost as insane as having an explicitly stated constitutional right to a given medical procedure. [/quote] PP here: exactly. It's insane to need a Constitutional amendment to have a right to a specific medical procedure. I really want a Democratic state to ban the importation and sale of erectile dysfunction pills. [/quote] Let me ask this question: Is it possible that two individuals on opposite sides of the pro-life vs pro-choice fence can both be in 100% agreement that the government should have no role in policing medical treatments, but they can be in full disagreement as to whether abortion is a medical treatment or it is in fact a form of murder / infanticide? Or to rephrase, is it possible for two folks on opposite sides of the pro-life vs pro-choice fence to share the same perspective on medical rights / right to privacy etc, but to simply have differing perspectives on whether abortion itself is actually a medical treatment or a whole other animal? I'm pro-choice, but have pro-life family members including my mother. She is a black Baptist woman from the south who literally participated in the civil rights marches. That being said the woman truly believes that abortion is murdering an unborn child. To call my elderly black Baptist mother an anti-womens rights person or something of the sort is just flat out ridiculous if you knew the woman and looked at her life history, but a lot of the takes you read here that ignore the fact that ABORTION ITSELF and not the government's role in people's medical procedures is the actual source of differences for some people on opposite sides of the fence. [/quote]
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