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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I am very frustrated with Biden now. They all knew at the time when they pushed Obamacare that it will increase the cost of healthcare for all. Now only Elizabeth Warren (who was my first choice) admits this. Biden still has no guts to admit that it was a disaster.

Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., "is at long last acknowledging that ObamaCare has increased healthcare prices" and created other unintentional consequences, the Wall Street Journal editorial board wrote Friday.

Warren, who has long supported the Affordable Care Act, the official name for ObamaCare, has recently come to an "epiphany" about "industry consolidation and price increases caused by the healthcare law," per The Journal.[/quote]
You’re intentionally misrepresenting her point, i.e., you’re lying.

“A letter to the Health and Human Services Department inspector general was aimed at determining if "vertically-integrated health care companies are hiking prescription drug costs" and are "evading federal regulations."

In a bipartisan letter, she and Sen. Mike Braun, R-Ind., complained "that the nation’s largest health insurers are dodging Obamacare’s medical loss ratio (MLR)," according to The Journal. […]

In functioning markets, generic drugs cost 80 to 85 percent less than their name-brand equivalents, giving patients much-needed relief from high drug costs and saving taxpayer dollars," Warren wrote. "But patients – including patients in public health care programs like Medicare and Medicaid – who either use or are compelled to use vertically integrated specialty pharmacies are not seeing this relief."

The senators continued: "By owning every link in the chain, a conglomerate like UnitedHealth Group – which includes an insurer, a PBM, a pharmacy, and physician practices – can send inflated medical payments to its pharmacy. Then, by realizing those payments on the pharmacy side – the side that charges for care – rather than the insurance side, the insurance line of business appears to be in compliance with MLR requirements, while keeping more money for itself."” https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/elizabeth-warrens-epiphany-on-obamacares-unintended-consequences-is-overdue-wsj/ar-AA1kB24m

She also wanted single payer, as did most Democrats. The ACA was meant to negotiate with you terrorists.

Tl;dr: you’re probably another Republican posing as a Democrat who wasn’t ever going to vote for Biden. The GOP makes problems. What do you think Trump would do to bring costs down? He didn’t do anything 2017-2021. Maybe he’ll nuke it or use a sharpie? [/quote]

What exactly I misrepresented? Are you saying that under Obamacare people not paying more for their health care? They do. And it was a very well known consequence at the time they were pushing for Obamacare. [/quote]

Maybe you were still in high school or something, but [b]at the time, the health care sector in the country was on the verge of collapse.[/b] Needing to do something, President Obama adopted what had been tested in Massachussetts, known as Romneycare, which was predicated on the Heritage Foundation (ie GOP/right wing) health care plan for the country. Obama and democrats preferred a single payer/universal solution, but in order to get bi-partisan support for health care reform, Obama chose to go with the GOP solution.

If you think it is too expensive, then you don't remember how much our society was subsidizing the under-insured and uninsured. Our societal costs have gone down, even if some individual costs have gone up. So thank you for paying your fair share. If you want further reform, then support the Universal Healthcare solution. Otherwise, what we have is what it is, because what we have is the GOP solution.[/quote]

How on Earth do you believe the bolded? Healthcare as an industry was fat and has since gotten fatter.

So much of this board is just the senile rantings of boomer Dems. They have these trite little stories of senior Dem politicians fixing problems that never existed. It’s like they want to be part of those politicians fan clubs, writing fan fiction![/quote]

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