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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I would bet money that they all died of heat stroke. Dad couldn't sweat b/c of big pack, was exerting himself, and it was 106 degrees with no shade! A human cannot survive if their core temp goes above 106 and there was no way for them to cool down.  Babies are like old people, they can't thermo regulate. The baby was trapped in a backpack oven. Bet the dad didn't even realize til he took the pack off that the baby had died.  The dog probably stopped moving at some point, at which time the dad sat down.  [/quote]

I’m following thread and this makes the most sense. It explains the positioning of sitting dad, dog at side, mom continuing to scramble up the hill. Dog and Dad (maybe carrying both baby and dig at this point) faltered, dad sat down, only then realizing baby was already dead. Mom freaked and began to run for help. Dog and parents were already near death at that point.[/quote]

They took a baby in a baby carrier in 106 degree heat? WTF. Dumb people.[/quote]

That’s what I keep coming back to. The hike made no sense on any level. And the dad had researched it. If it’s heat stroke, it’s not like they came into the hike not knowing the hazards. All of the information they needed about this adventure (the distance, topography, lack of shade, and hourly forecast) was available to them before the hike began.

In order to believe it was heat stroke, it requires us to believe they made SEVERAL significant errors in judgement BEFORE THE HIKE EVEN BEGAN:

-taking baby on a hike on such a hot day and getting such a late start
-choosing a route with no shade
-choosing such a vigorous and involved hike
-not bringing enough water
-not turning back once they realized how hard the whole thing was going to be

These were not stupid people. Not tourists. Not inexperienced hikers. They had to have known what they were getting into. And with a BABY.

I just don’t understand undertaking the hike in the first place. [/quote]

NP here:
It's not usually that hot in their area. It was an unseasonably warm day. They don't live in a desert, but rather the forested foothills of the Sierra Nevadas.

I honestly think they (1) neglected to check their weather app before going out on the hike and (2) they did not fully comprehend the difficulty, elevation change, and lack of shade on the switchback trail. Their mistakes were borne out of a mix of ignorance and over-confidence.[/quote]

I mean you make valid points and that would explain it. I think they’d been in a heat wave for awhile though, hadn’t they? I don’t think it was random or sudden.

I think I’m just having trouble understanding the thought process. They worked in tech….they were parents of a young baby. The kind of people who would research these things. Heck, most of my friends don’t even go to a restaurant or buy a $20 item off of Amazon without looking at reviews. How could they have been so reckless as to not have checked the weather and distance (or not to have bailed out soon into the trip)?[/quote]
[b]If they had checked their weather app that morning, the forecast was partly cloudy with a high of 97 degrees.  Above average for the area but not a "heat wave."  [/b]The discrepancy between the forecasted high and the 103-109 reported by the Sheriff's Dept can be explained by the fact the closest weather reporting station (Mariposa) is normally cooler than the actual location of the hike.  In rural California it's very common to not have access to a precise forecast for your exact location. I think far too much blame is being placed on the couple.  I suspect the the truth is far closer to what is depicted in the book/movie "The Perfect Storm" where a series of small unfortunate decisions leads to a tragic outcome.[/quote]
In what universe is taking an eight-mile hike in that weather with a baby and a dog appropriate? MAYBE walk a mile in and a mile back in the morning, not the whole loop. 
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Wow. How not funny this post is.[/quote]

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