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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Federal worker here.  No one is leaving because of Trump, they're filling you.  At my agency they were going to be retiring in the next couple of years regardless.  I hope they do, we need young fresh blood who wants to take risks.  Too many employees sitting there basically Retired in Place (RIP) and not doing shit or doing the minimum to get buy.  They've made their high three and will be leaving with a generous retirement.

In IT, the average age of the federal worker is 55.  Way, way too old to adapt new technology and move federal IT into the next wave. They don't understand technology really and won't push to implement new ideas or technologies because they fear change and are just waiting until they retire so it's not their problem.

A lot of older federal workers are irrelevant and a waste of space.  [/quote]

Very ageist comments, bro.  Bitter about a promotion?[/quote]

Can anyone ever tell the truth without you getting offended and pushing for the status quo? The way we're going isn't working. 
Get that thru your f'n thick skull... and I'm not a racist or whateverist for saying so either.

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I'm PP who made "ageist" comments.  I speak the truth.  I'm also 36 and a GS-14, almost unheard of.  I got there because of cast private sector experience, took a 13 and then promoted to 14 in less than four years to a branch director.  Reason being - I was young blood that took risks and implanted new programs that have raised effectiveness, efficiency, agency capabilities and along with another branch created a system that better serves our customers (the American people).  That being said, we got a lot of resistance from other unit branches and agencies.  We missed timelines because of their unwillingness to work with us.  Eventually the agency head had to out the hammer down as we should him how our new stuff was working well in our branch and others that implemented it.  But it was the old RIP people who dragged feet and played needless politics.  I say fine...get the hell out of the way and move along.  Let us fix this stuff.  Instead our younger agency heads that are replacing former directors don't want to deal with the HR nightmare of letting people go, putting them on PIPs and so fourth.  Tbey shove them into a corner like putting old useless cows out to pasture and you can't give you milk.  They sit there collecting money while essentially doing nothing.  [/quote]

I think you need to learn that your office isn't representative of most.  For instance, I was a GS-15 before I was 30.  Obviously, at your agency that would be very unusual.  In my office, it's normal for the top half of performers.  We have some support staff that are dead wood, but not professional staff.  At my husband's firm, they had dead wood old partners staying on for the paycheck, though. [/quote]

GS14 is rather good at 36.  I personally think you're lying, as no one is a 15 before 30, it doesn't happen.   Not sure of PP's agency, but I've worked NSF, State, DoD and not for a sub-agency of Treasury.  Being on a pay band helps as you get more than a GS, but by and large the PP is correct.

Places like the OCC, CFTC and FDIC are good about getting rid of employees who are dead weight.  The DOI's IBC is good about that to, but a lot of agencies aren't.

The dead weight needs to go, there is a lot of people the military people used to call Retired on Active Duty (ROAD) or RIPs as well.  DoD civilians who did little or just enough to get by.  I see them in the other agencies too just as PP described.  There is too much of it in the federal space and it needs to be cleansed.  I say to those who threaten to leave...go ahead...move on out.  We're better off without you. 
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Not lying.  DOJ attorney.  Your concept that you know everything is making you blind. [/quote]

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