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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Folks seem to be thinking that heavenly manna is being dished out in the AAP classes. That ain't so. Believe me, the upper limit to what's being offered isn't that much higher than in GE.[/quote]

But the classes move much faster, especially in elementary school.

The difference is in how quickly/easily the kids as a group are able to move through the curriculum.[/quote]

Can we get back to how to fix the system rather than debating how hard or easy the AAP curriculum is? Maybe that debate could have its own thread.[/quote]

It's hard to leave this out of the discussion when some are proposing that AAP should be offered to everyone, or mostly everyone.  I don't think most people really have a sense of what percentage of students could move at the AAP pace or not.  Several posters have suggested that AAP be the norm and then have a small slice at the top and a small slice at the bottom.  That doesn't really seem like it would be great for the 2 'extremes' on either side. [/quote]

Welcome to our public education system

Look its still pretty good it's geared towards the middle 80%.  Since this area is so well off the problem is the normally top 10% or so is roughyl say 25% of the population instead of just 10% but of course its complicated because its much higher in the higher income areas and much lower in the lower income areas.

Anyway back to the actual issue at hand.  Personally I don't see much value in accelerating learning in elementary school but since not everyone agrees with this I think the best solution is keeping everyone mixed and then having "extra" work for the top kids say anywhere from the top 25% to the top 5%.  This way the "top" kids are challenged and the "normal" kids still benefit from the extra stimulus of being around the top kids

Then the big separation should be middle school similar to the European model.  Everyone takes a test in 5th grade.  Then they go to one of three areas, trade school, the current normal school model, or "elite" school.  I think these numbers should be 1/3 1/3 1/3 county wide again in a district its not going to be split evenly.

Thats what I would do take it or leave it haha

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Haha is right on that last paragraph.  That will never fly around here.

As for mixing everyone, parents already complain that teachers can't differentiate from top to bottom in Gen Ed (without the 'top' kids around to make the range even bigger.) How do we make sure teachers have what they need to differentiate across the spectrum?
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