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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Just want to point out that there is no test to be part of the American Jewish community.

Nobody is going to pull your son's pants down to determine if he is welcome to join a temple, or attend services, or go to Jewish day camp, join Hillel at his college, eat at Katz's, vote Democratic (ok, that was a joke), take the day off at work/school on Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur, stick up for/criticize Israel, or do any of the many, many things that define the community of "American Jews."

I can't speak to Israel, but i can tell you that in my almost 50 years as an American Jew, not once have I been asked about circumcision - at a Jewish event, or elsewhere for that matter.[/quote]

The only one who is going to pull his pants down is a future wife or girlfriend. If she is Jewish, it might become a point of conversation - though if he is of mixed parentage and raised in a non-observant household, she should not be surprised by what she finds. [/quote]

She won't be surprised because it sounds like OP's son will not identify as Jewish, and that is fine. He will know he has Jewish heritage but if they are not raising him Jewish -- which it sounds like they aren't because [b]DH doesn't care and OP has major issues with Jews or at least Israeli Jews[/b] -- he won't be Jewish. So if he marries a Jewish woman he's going to have to have that conversation anyway. Hopefully before she pulls down his pants.

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Nope, inaccurate.  Learn to read before you comment.  DH is a secular Israeli, if you know some you know what that means. They are against religious Judaism.  I do not "have major issues with Jews," I find that certain interpretations and applications of Jewish law are against my personal values.  Big difference.  As for Israel, this came into the discussion because many people were urging us to look into Reform/reconstructionist Judaism so I had to explain why this isn't relevant to our family.  I am guessing we would be more ideologically aligned with Reform, but it's not of interest to my husband.

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I know what a secular Israeli is, but I am not familiar with the opinion of secular Israelis on circumcision, especially that subset of secular Israelis who marry gentiles.

I would suggest DCUM is probably not the best place to find people familiar with that.   As a practicing Conservative Jew, I am not sure why this is a big deal to your husband. Without knowing that, I cannot give advice to your situation.

It is not the fault of Judaism, or of observant Jews, that your husband wants to circumcise an halachically non-Jewish child. [b]The ceremony remains meaningful to us, and in a world where some would ban it, discussions calling it barbaric are a concern to me.[/b]  But that is a different issue from what you should do.   [/quote]

Arranged child marriage is religiously significant for some cultures. Yet it most likely will phase out as Western ideas of human/women's rights spread to other cultures. The same goes with female circumcision. Historically, you're just on the wrong side of this argument... sorry to say.  Religiously meaningful practices that don't violate consent and so forth [b]will probably be allowed to continue.[/b] I don't think this is really about anti-Semitism.  Religious norms have constantly had to adjust to and interact with cultural ones.[/quote]

Well we see where you are coming from.

If OP finds that helpful that is her business.   [/quote]

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