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[quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous]We keep talking in circles because you keep conflating the two different definitions of "discrimination":

dis·crim·i·nate
    1.   recognize a distinction; differentiate.
    2.   make an unjust or prejudicial distinction in the treatment of different categories of people or things, especially on the grounds of race, sex, or age.

The first definition is what we all practice on a daily basis. It's again part of what makes us human. When you test new drivers but do not test state-to-state transfer drivers, that's also the first type of discrimination - recognizing that there is a valid difference and treating the two groups differently as a result.

You somehow think practicing discrimination of the first kind somehow makes someone guilty of discrimination in the second kind. Note that not even all discrimination based on race, sex, or age is discrimination of the second kind: only those that are unjust or prejudicial. For example, people under a certain age cannot watch certain movies, this is a discrimination based on age, but it is a just distinction. Men as a group have higher life insurance costs for similar age and health, which is a discrimination based on sex, but this distinction again has just reasons. Similarly, there are valid and just reasons to apply more scrutiny to people applying for immigration or refugee status from Muslim or Arab countries. My reasons for believing the reasons are just have been outlined in previous posts so I won't repeat them here. Again you are conflating two different things. As long as you continue to do this, no one can have a productive conversation with you. I've tried my best. I'll leave this branch of the discussion here. [/quote]

People are being killed because of anti-Muslim prejudice and you are taking about drivers licenses? This is not a semantic game. You are clearly stating that you support discrimination based on religion and/or national origin. You believe your position is justified. However, you somehow how want to suggest that is "good" discrimination as opposed to "bad" discrimination. If you are comfortable with this discrimination, why are you arguing about it? I get it. You think subjecting Arabs and Muslims to a different standard is just like Illinois and Iowa having different drivers license tests. Never mind that nobody walks up to someone and says, "your license is from Illinois" and shoots them in the head.

Anti-Arab and anti-Muslim prejudice is tolerated much to readily in this country. Yes, you will argue that your type of discrimination is not so bad as some other person's type of discrimination because you don't consider all Muslims terrorists, you just presume they might be one until they prove otherwise. All immigrants to this country should be vetted. All refugees should be vetted. But, the standard should not change based on religion.

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