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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]If it is OK to limit the number of qualified Asian Americans into elite universities using holistic admissions, then why wasn't it ok years ago when Harvard went this route to limit the number of Jews?  Why do we look back on that time and shake our heads, and we all agree it was terrible for Harvard to do this, but then think it's fine today to do this very same thing to a different group of people?[/quote]

Sorry.  The situation faced by Jews was not the same thing as what Asians face today.  So tired of this lazy analogy.  [/quote]
How is it not the same thing?

Harvard put the "holistic" admission in place because they found that there were too many Jews getting in.  You think because Asian Americans don't *seem* to face any prejudice that they are not being discriminated against?

Hate to burst your bubble, but Asian Americans are still discriminated against, albeit much more subtly, which is way more insidious.  The stereotypes on this forum alone is indicative of it.

I posted up thread about the what happened to the Jews in Harvard back then.. I'll re-post for your benefit:
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"Jews at Harvard tripled to 21% of the freshman class in 1922 from about 7% in 1900. Ivy League Jews won a disproportionate share of academic prizes and election to Phi Beta Kappa [b]but were widely regarded as competitive, eager to excel academically and less interested in extra-curricular activities such as organized sports. Non-Jews accused them of being clannish, socially unskilled and either unwilling or unable to“fit in.”[/b]

[b]--sounds exactly like how some describe Asian American students. [/b]

continuing....

"In 1922, Harvard's president, A. Lawrence Lowell, proposed a quota on the number of Jews gaining admission to the university. Lowell was convinced that Harvard could only survive if the majority of its students came from old American stock.

Lowell argued that cutting the number of Jews at Harvard to a maximum of 15% would be good for the Jews, because limits would prevent further anti-Semitism. Lowell reasoned, [b]“The anti-Semitic feeling among the students is increasing, and it grows in proportion to the increase in the number of Jews. If their number should become 40% of the student body, the race feeling would become intense.”"

-- again, sound exactly like what's happening to Asian American students. [/b]

"In the late 1930s, James Bryant Conant, Lowell's successor as president, eased the geographic distribution requirements, and Jewish students were once again admitted primarily on the basis of merit."

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/anti-semitism/harvard.html
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