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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Lots of comments that Fran was so great. Fran may have been great on the surface, but underneath the nice guy exterior, he never accepted Hannah for who she really is. Can you blame him? No, Hannah is a shitty person. But then why did he stay with someone he couldn't stand, and then even continue arguing with her after the breakup? He just wanted to be in a relationship and be controlling. I actually respected that Hannah realized that, even if the way she went about it was horrible.

Loved this season. More Shosh and less Marni in season 6 would be awesome.[/quote]

I don't get why Fran was with Hannah.  But I don't think that it was evident that he couldn't stand her while they were together.  She did some crazy sh!t when they were together, and he objected to some of that, but generally seemed like a nice guy who was invested in the relationship.  He let a lot slide.  Maybe I'm just not remembering his controlling behavior- I'll have to rewatch his scenes.

When you mention his continuing to argue after the breakup do you mean when they were on the road trip? What she did there would have made a saint see red.  They had plans for the entire summer, rented the RV, everything was hunky dory and then an hour down the road she flips out and acts like he is attacking her when he wants to talk to her to figure out what is happening.  She begs him to leave and after he does she complains about him deserting her.

I realize that in Lena Dunham's summary afterwards she spun it like Fran was the bad guy in that relationship, but that's just crazy defending crazy.  She's too in love with Hannah to acknowledge how horrid she is.[/quote]

Totally agree.  Fran wasn't controlling at all.  Except maybe when he wanted to correct Hannah's students' papers.  But that was just a little annoying, not what I'd call controlling.  He was genuinely a nice guy and it made no sense at all that he would be with someone as self-absorbed as Hannah.  I couldn't believe her behavior when she called it off as they set off on their summer road trip.  I would have reacted exactly as he did - furious and disgusted.

[b]Where are you guys seeing these after-show summaries[/b]?  I can't even believe Dunham would try to make Fran out as the bad guy in this scenario when clearly it's Hannah who has deep, deep issues.[/quote]

HBO Go[/quote]

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