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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]18.29 - but please explain to me (I'm asking nicely, no snark) why 1) the necessity of the body of Christ on the cross and on necklaces; 2) the statues that do indeed adorn Catholic churches- I do see these as graven images; 3) the Saints - no mention in the bible; 4) the adoration or worship or whatever you want to call it of Mary - also not in the ible so I just don't get it - people says she's "revered not worshipped" - I don't undersand the difference; 5) and how do the saints and Mary intercede? That's not in the bible either. I guess I don't buy Transsubstantiation either so I'm probably a hopeless protestant but am curious. [/quote] Not sure what bible you've been reading but everything you say isn't in the bible absolutely is. [/quote] Please provide citations then. I know the Bible very well. Catholic theology is filled with things that cannot be substantiated Biblically.[/quote] There is an entire post about this a page back.[/quote] Only one misused scriptural passage in that.[/quote] How was it "misused?" And you didn't respond to the post that reminded you that the church is the one that assembled the bible to begin with.[/quote] No, I didn't. That would require a history lesson that I doubt anyone on here is willing to undertake. But much of Catholic doctrine that is taught today was formalized many centuries after the apostles spread the Gospel of Christ through the world. The early church knew nothing of, and wrote nothing of, transubstantiation, the veneration of "saints," the immaculate conception, papal infallibility and much else. In fact, the Catholic Bible in use today has about 12 books that are not in the Protestant Bible. If you read the Book of Acts, there is nothing at all recognizable as what the Roman Catholic church looks like today. The very idea of a canon of Scripture is so that you can recognize what is Biblical Christianity and what is not. If all you have to appeal to is church "tradition" and can't find it in Scripture, then I would ask why it wasn't written down in Scripture, to which Christians look as the authority on the life and teachings of Christ.[/quote] My understanding is that the development of the canonical bible was occurring somewhat in parallel with the seven ecumenical councils which made the decisions you appear to hold so in contempt and occurred before the separation of the Catholic and Eastern Orthodox church. I am not Catholic so I would not defend theological decisions made much later. But those are separate issues from the veneration of Mary, saints, and religious iconography. These were all decisions made by the very very early church. TL; DR: Calling a crucifix or icon or stained glass window or statue or whatever else a "graven image" is just silly nonsense,[b] lady[/b].[/quote] "Lady?". Catholic male sexism maybe? How do you know a PP is a woman? Clearly you then must be a Catholic male - it's pretty obvious from above but why do you immediately assume "lady"?[/quote]
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