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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]if you have a "hook-less" child, the top publics will probably be better.  there may be exceptions in a given year at a given school, but top public is generally the better place for a hook-less student -- if you're looking purely at his/her odds at a top college.

People will point to the percentage of students at a top private who have been admitted in a given year to a top college -- and yes, the top privates will often have higher percentages of their senior class going to the top colleges.  BUT -- and it's a big "but" -- those percentages include a bunch of kids who are the children of either very powerful or extremely wealthy people.  and some of those parents are legacies at those schools (though that's not needed when the family can donate 7 figures to a university or can pull in connections at the White House) and some of those families are also diverse.  So when you look at stats for the completely unhooked (which are hard to come by), that's when you see that there's not an advantage to being at a top private when you're a non-diverse, non-recruited-athlete, non-legacy, middle class kid.

of course, someone will trot out the odd year where that hasn't been the case -- but people who've watched this for years will tell you this: that's the exception and not the rule.  [/quote]

I can't agree with this more.  An un-hooked child has a very slim shot at ivy admissions.  period.  I worked at a big 3 for about 10 years.  We consistently "wowed" with our ivy admissions numbers -every year it was 25%-30% of the class going ivy.  But that was made almost exclusively of URM, athletes, kids of alums who donate in the 10s of thousands and up or VIP money  kids (think heir to an oil fortune VIP, not 2 big law partners VIP).  Of the 20-30 kids going to ivies at most 3 or 4 were not listed above.  If you are a URM I think the college counseling at the big 3s is going to give you a big heads up in admissions.  The top kids who were not hooked "settled" for school like UVA and U Chicago and Northwestern... not really settling but it isn't Harvard.[/quote]

If the Supreme Court throws out affirmative action, the URM preference could give way to a challenged SES-based preference.  That's more legally sustainable and it makes little sense that economically advantaged applicants who happen to be racial minorities, such as the sons and daughters of C-suite execs or Big Law partners) get a hook in admissions.[/quote]

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