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Coming to your own conclusions is not faith, it's skepticism. [/quote]

People of faith know what faith is.  If it feels like faith, then it's faith.  They can be skeptical of some things - like the honesty of politicians or car salesmen, but when it comes to their faith, they believe what they want to believe.

People without faith can't understand this.  To them it seems like silliness, lack of intellect or some kind of weird blindspot.  But people of faith understand and are not fazed.  They know that they are just as intelligent and analytical and skeptical as anyone else about matters unrelated to their religious faith.[/quote]

You can call a pumpkin a volkswagen all you want, but you are only fooling yourself and looking stupid in front of others. Religious faith grow stronger by overcoming skepticism, not yielding to it. Don't conflate religious faith with general usage of "faith", which is assumptions made about the world based on observable and empirical evidence, such as honesty of politicians or car salesmen. Religious faith has no basis in evidence.

Why not be equally skeptical about what you believe in terms of the origins of this world and our species? [b]Why must you give up your intelligence and analytical abilities when practicing your religion[/b]?[/quote]

It's not given up, it's turned over -- another concept that people without faith don't understand.[/quote]
different poster here: 
This is precisely why I'm raising my kids godfree: because I believe that an omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent god wouldn't suddenly decide to endow a species with free will, intellect and deductive skills and then tell one guy (or a series of guys who put a bunch of writings together and proclaim it god's book) to tell everybody else to turn off those skills and "follow me."

Follow me of course means "check your brain at the door, do whatever I write or translate no matter how brutal or biased and do it unquestioningly. Oh, and all nonbelievers are infidels condemned to burn in hell. Also, give me your $$ unquestioningly."

God doesn't need $$ remember? Jesus said "give to god what is god's and Caesar what is Caesar's."

It's your book. If Jesus said to love one another is the highest law and give to Caesar what is Caesar's, then you can't turn around and say he didn't say those things, unless of course you question the validity of the book and it's writers, translators and interpreters, which would be a major growth step.
Oh and Jesus never said anything about the origin of the species at all. That's in Genesis. Just observe Catholic schools: the Creation story is taught in Religion class and evolution is taught in Biology, so somewhere people are allowed to question.[/quote]

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