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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I don't even know what to say anymore. If these kids feel that the conditions at Yale are intolerably racist and offensive, I seriously do not know where they will feel "safe" once they leave the cocooned environment of academia. I read the email and am appalled that the author's words are being twisted and mischaracterized the way they are, and that both she and her husband are so completely under fire. Of course Yale, as all universities it seems these days, are cowering and buckling under the emotion-based screaming and ranting and accusations of "RACISM!!!!" I am a liberal - never voted for a republican and never will (unless they miraculously turn around from the insane path they're currently on), but this trend in academia scares the crap out out of me. Maybe Univ of Chicago is the last bastion of sanity. We'll see how long they last tho. [/quote]And I'm sure you feel that nooses hanging from college trees, nigger scrawled on college walls, swastikas drawn on dorm room doors at othet colleges is simply free expression. Though, I think much of the email was mischaracterized. And if you think UChicago would stand for one second for the aforementioned in the name of free expression, you haven't a clue what Chixago stands for.[/quote] What are you even talking about? Who is defending that stuff? [b]This is exactly the kind of emotion-based, fact-free race-baiting crap that people who can still reason and think are objecting to. I'm sorry you are incapable of rational discourse and can only respond with straw man arguments involving nooses and dog-whistling.[/b] As for UofC, read the administration's statement of freedom of expression from last year. It was specifically issued as a preemptive defense of debate, inquiry and exchange of ideas - the statement expressly noted the administration felt the need to emphasize these ideals in light of recent developments on campuses around the country and the shutting down of discourse in the name of comfort and not causing offense. [/quote]I'm not the previous poster but I am curious at your response. These "straw man" arguments involving reprehensible acts are the underlying reasons (in some cases) that cause unreasonable responses like the one at Yale. The proverbial tip of the iceberg so to speak. I strongly feel the Yale student's response was unreasonable but I wonder if there was more underlying issues that pushed to the limit? I am a strong proponent of debate to resolve problems. But if there isn't any resolution after significant debate, how would you recommend resolving problems? Though I think the types of ethnic problems causing dissension on most campuses due to callous, ignorant behavior by individuals. That is an internal and spiritual problem, in my opinion, closer to upbringing. That said, like the University of Chicago who has engaged federal assistance in some cases, the administration should seek out resolution. Just as the Columbia University student who carried a bed on her back to RIGHTFULLY bring awareness to rape, there are times when some measures (which one might deem unreasonable) must and should be undertaken to insist that administration be immediately attentive and active in resolving problems. History is (especially college war protesters and college civil rights activists) full of dissenting students whose views were seen as straw man arguments, emotion-based, and "incapable of rational discourse." But there actions changed the course of history for the better even if some felt it was for their own comfort or emotional behavior.[/quote]
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