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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I don't know how to say this without sounding like a real c*nt, but I'm saying it anyway.  When he asked her to put out the cigarette, why was she so pissy and disrespectful?  Did I miss part of the video, was he hateful to her first.  We all know most cops are arrogant assholes.  But we don't have to be belligerent back.  Just do what they say and no one gets hurt.[/quote]

So it's okay for the police to attack you for smoking in your car.  Wow. WTF has happened to people in this country?[/quote]

It's always the initial action that the defenders revert back to.  NO, it's not ok to be attacked for smoking in your car.  NO, it's not ok to be killed for stealing a bag of chips.  But, she wasn't attacked for smoking in her car.  She reacted in such a hostile way, she escalated everything.  Do you actually excuse (and endorse) the blatant disrespect and anti-authoritarian stance she took?  [/quote]

He is a trained police officer.  No matter how much of an ass the citizen is, he should be capable of restraint.

If my kid is an ass to his teacher, I don't expect the teacher to beat him, no matter how much my kid is "asking for it".  Trained professionals are expected to maintain a higher standard.

He should have written her a ticket for the failure to signal and sent her on her way.

By your logic, anything the cop asks you to do during a traffic stop, you should just do, because it's not worth getting killed over.

Cops are not God.  We have a right and even a responsibility to stand up for our rights.  We should not have to cower before policemen because if we don't,they might kill us.

It's not illegal to be hostile or a jerk or disrespectful.  I agree, it's not wise and I don't endorse it.  But average citizens should not end up dead for being jerks.

Cops should be better than that.

Frankly I can't believe people are actually excusing, and endorsing, a citizen ending up dead because she was (you say) nasty to a cop.  [/quote]

I am astounded that people can't admit that she should have kept her flippin' mouth shut.  Believe it or not, one can RESPECTFULLY stand up for his rights.  Hateful comebacks and outright refusal to comply with a normal request is not standing up for rights, it's just being aggressive to rebel.  I totally agree this cop is a creep.  He way overdid it - and however she died, it's a horrible, horrible and undeserved result.  I can admit he went overboard, but unfortunately when you push and test your limits with an a-hole, you're going to get sh*t on.[/quote]

NP - seriously?  Why is it a "normal request" to insist that she put out a cigarette that she is legally smoking in her own car?  I'm not a smoker but I know how addictive it can be.  She clearly wanted to smoke the rest of that cigarette (perhaps it was her last?) and who is he to say that she shouldn't. [/b] And she is perfectly right that he has NO RIGHT to insist that she step out of the car for a jumped up charge of failing to signal. [b] She was absolutely completely in the right when he asked her why she was upset and she said that she was upset because he sped up close behind her, so she moved out of his way (which is an utterly normal response to a cop who is driving aggressively behind you) and then, because she was helpful and tried to do what she THOUGHT he wanted her to do, he stops her and tries to ticket her for not having signaled.  Give me a break.  He intentionally set her up, 100 percent.  On the whole, I wish people would signal more and drive more considerately, but she was not being inconsiderate when she switched lanes and nothing she did was dangerous.  She did not deserve a ticket, it was not a lawful traffic stop and he had no right to insist she put out her cigarette, get out of the car, or be arrested.  I mean, WTF, he essentially arrested her for "resisting arrest", how bullshit is that?[/quote]

I remember being pulled over for a taillight violation. The officer asked me to step out of the car. I said, I want to make a 911 call. The officer said why, I told him "it's nighttime, I want this on record". He let me go with a verbal warning. She had every right to question him. [/quote]

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