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In catholic churches, the risen Christ is also celebrated. Both suffering and rising are taught.[/quote]

Really?  Because He's still hanging there in every Catholic Church/hospital/home I've visited.[/quote]

I think pp means that even for Catholics the story of Jesus didn't end on the cross. And that is part of faith teaching.[/quote]

Catholics celebrate the resurrection, all right, but they also focus morbidly on the crucifixion[/quote]

Okay... and what?

What do you want catholics to do? This is a huge part of the catholic faith and ingrained in its history and tradition.

[b]So what exactly do you want them to do?[/b]

No one is asking you to be catholic and focus morbidly on the crucifixion.[/quote]

It's more what I think the Catholics would be better off NOT doing -- and (among other things)  that's continuing with the focus on the gory crucifixion.  It's like an artifact from an earlier, less humane age that we're stuck with because of all the art and doctrine and ancient images[/quote]

Also, [b]why would anyone want to defend and continue this gory, antiquated focus?[/b]  "Just because we've always done it that way and we're used to it and are not bothered by it"  doesn't seem like a very good reason or a very good sign for the future of the church in a more open, humane society.[/quote]

Because its a reflexive reaction to criticism of Catholicism. First denial, then defense, followed by name calling  and making demands.

The discussion here has gone from (summarizing) "It's not gory" to  "goriness is good" to "you're mean for pointing out the goriness" to "shut up and go away" to "what are you going to do about it?"

There's not much non/former Catholics can do besides acknowledge it and [b]try to communicate concerns to Catholics[/b].  The change must come from within, for instance - by changing centuries of tradition and by individual Catholics leaving the church for a more humane, modern environment, whether tha by a different denomination or no church at all.[/quote]

Are you part of an organized religion? What is your faith background?[/quote]

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