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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Catholic here, and I"m surprised at the discussion of "gory crosses."   Most (not all) of the crucifixes I have seen show very little or no blood.  Yes, there are nails  through his hands and feet, but no blood showing.   In all my years as a Catholic child I never really realized or was told the gory details associated with being crucified.  I was well into adulthood before it even occurred to me.[/quote]

Oh, you've missed out on one of the greatest things about Catholic church history.  Love the gory stuff.  Nobody does gore like the Catholics.  The polychrome sculpture is the best.  Well, there's also all the reliquaries with body parts, especially St. Catherine's head in Siena, and St. Anthony's tongue in Padova, with tastebuds still intact!

Don't give me any of that whitewashed vanilla Protestant aesthetic.

http://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/jonathanjonesblog/2013/nov/18/st-peters-bones-christian-relics

http://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/an-800-year-old-tongue-tours-new-york-st-anthony-s-relics-on-the-anniversary-of-their-discovery

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And, yet again, I ask what is your point?

Is someone forcing you at gunpoint to be catholic?
Do you have to study catholicism so a nigerian prince will send you a million dollars?

You don't think you are going to change catholicism do you? Or make a catholic go "Oh gee, I never noticed how gory the church is, guess I'll be an athiest now."

pssst... if you don't like the religion, don't be that religion.[/quote]

Sorry, you misunderstood my point completely. (I'm not OP, by the way, in case you are mistaking me for her or someone else.)  I LOVE the vividness of Catholic  imagery.  Life is nasty, brutish, and short -- for most people throughout history-- and I love that the church recognizes the physicality of bodies.  They bleed, they hurt, they're made of flesh and bones.   Ok, so I confess I'm coming at it from an anthropologist's POV, but it is so much more fascinating and appealing than the sanitized Protestant aesthetic.  Whenever I go to Europe I seek out those old churches that have relics and lifelike crucifixes and altarpieces showing the martydom of the saints the like.  And I love it when I see modern day pilgrims venerating these objects.  (Like St. Anthony's tongue in Padua -- there are lines to get in to see it!)   It's so compelling and makes such a tangible link to the past.  Walking into a modern, stark church with no decoration, that depresses me.

Embrace your church's history!  [/quote]

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