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So why was the purity statement in the oath for these specific women coming to the Prophet from Mecca? Because these women sometimes were traveling with their children, some of them were illegitimate. Moreover, a woman who was without a guardian, and especially one who was engaging in fornication and adultery in those days was engaging in behavior that was quite unsafe for her. The Prophet had to let these women know that such behavior, fornication and adultery, which were common in pagan communities, would not be permitted in Islam. This is also why every effort was made to marry these women off to Muslim husbands as quickly as possible. It was safer for them to be under the guardianship of a Muslim husband if they now had no guardian. Why wasn't this purity aspect mentioned to the men? Because men did not travel to see the Prophet with their children (illegitimate or not) and paternity was impossible to establish if fornication and adultery were so commonplace in pagan communities. Besides, fornication and adultery, while still prohibited and punishable in islam for men also, was much more dangerous and risky behavior for a woman when she engaged in it.

I don't know why this is so difficult to accept and understand. [/quote]
You don't know that these women traveled to see the prophet with their children, and men didn't. You made that up, just like a very specific number of children you said they had with them. That, too, you made up.

The oath was forward-looking.  The women were asked not to fornicate/lie/steal/kill going forward. There was no reason men could not have been asked to abstain from the same going forward.   Adultery and fornication were commonplace for men as well (although it's a Muslim theory, not a universal one, that pre-Islamic Arabia was a hedonistic heaven) so under that theory,  there was no reason to assume that men did not engage in these behaviors, and therefore no reason not to ask them to abstain from them going forward.

Why didn't the prophet have to let men know that fornication and adultery would not be permitted in Islam?  It's forbidden for both men and women so why did women have to be reminded and not men? Is this the point where you make up your story about 2-4 children in tow AGAIN?

I should also note that marriage is not the only alternative to fornication and adultery.

Note also a one-time deal to pay off the dowries non-Muslim husbands must have paid to these women.  For the newly Muslim women, the prophet said reimburse their husbands and go ahead and marry them.  This is a very generous offer considering that if a Muslim woman initiates a divorce from her Muslim (not pagan) husband, she is commonly obligated to repay him the dowry herself - without husband #next chipping in. A good deal, collecting two dowries, if you ask me. 
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