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[quote=Anonymous]This is getting confusing! But, I get the impression 2:29 is a Muslim who is disagreeing with another Muslim (OP) about whether God should be called Allah (although 2:29 and OP definitely share midnight posting times), and 2:29 is also disagreeing with a non-Muslim (who is not me) about consultation. There seems to be disagreement here on several points, between Muslims (including you, I think) and between Muslims and non-Muslims : - consultation = voting rights (Muslim OP and Muslim 2:29 think this is the case. Non-muslims disagree that consultation is the same as voting rights, and bringing in the ancient Greeks doesn't change this disagreement) - consultation didn't exist before Islam so this was something "new" - there was massive fornication, resulting in illegitimate children, before Islam (OP said this) - the purity oath was definitely administered to men (Muslim OP and Muslim PP claim this, non-Muslims have asked for proof) - the purity oath was looking backwards (OP's women who were arriving with many illegitimate children, but the fathers couldn't be identified, so they didn't have to make the oath) vs. looking forward (non-Muslim posters argue that men could make the oath) - men didn't have to make the purity oath because it was looking backwards (OP's many women with illegitimate children) vs. looking foward but of course men had to make the oath (here I think OP was arguing with herself) - women had no rights before Islam (see Khadija) - it's necessary to talk to "multiple" Muslim scholars to understand Islam (Muslim OP said this, not sure where Muslim 2:29 is on this, non-Muslims disagree) - non-Muslims cannot understand Islam (Muslim OP said this, but not the Muslim above) - Whether the monotheistic deity should be called God or Allah (Muslim OP and the Muslim poster above disagree) The point is, [b]we all disagree with each other on various points.[/b] Muslim OP keeps saying she's OK with disagreement. Above, referring to some of these points, you write about the ancient Greeks and and then you throw up your hands in exasperation, saying "I don't know why this is so difficult to accept or understand"? So I take this as saying, nobody here is actually "OK" with disagreement. We each have our own positions. Disagreement *should* be fine. Trying to get the last word is not going to change the fact that we all simply disagree. [/quote]
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