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[quote=Anonymous]Different PP here. [quote=Anonymous]I have said Muslims are fine with disagreement. The Quran states, "There is no compulsion in Islam." No one needs to like Islam, convert to Islam, agree with Islam. This was never merely about disagreement. It was about an hate driven campaign. You can not even get yourself to speak with an imam or scholar because you said you mistrust them all. How can they all be untrustworthy and liars, simply because they are Muslim?[/quote] Nobody said "they are all liars because they are Muslim." Link, please. You made that up. Also, when did PP say she mistrusts all Muslim scholars? Link, please. You made that up, too. Yes, this is indeed about disagreement. All your arguments and examples in [b]THIS POST[/b] are about areas where people [b]DISAGREE[/b] with you: defining women's equality, whether consultation and a purity pledge are the same as voting rights, whether it should be necessary to seek out Muslim scholars and learn arabic before posting on DCUM. No, you're not "fine" with disagreement. If somebody disagrees with any of this, you think it must be driven by some shadowy organization's "hate-filled campaign." Also, nobody is impressed that you once bumped into a priest or minister at some interfaith event somewhere and harangued him or her about the Trinity. Did you learn koine Greek, too? You're demanding a lot more of us: you're demanding that we schedule multiple meeting with an imam AND to learn Quranic Arabic. [quote=Anonymous]And when you say inheritance laws give less to women, its to show the disparity = inequity. Thats a bit misleading considering you failed to mention men have greater financial burdens and women do not need to support themselves.[/quote] OK, so you're saying that men and women have unequal [i]burdens[/i] as well as unequal inheritance, divorce and testimony rights. That's [i]more[/i] and different inequality (there are women who need/want to work). It's fine for you think this balances out, and it's fine if you prefer this system. But it's understandable if others here don't agree that two types of inequality sum up to equality. The other PP answered about voting rights. But, pledging to do what the prophet asks doesn't seem like voting rights to me. Also, consultation, whether or not it included women, is different from voting rights. [quote=Anonymous]So you see, you are not embarking on a truth seeking mission here. Its a campaign driven by another agenda. [/quote] I don't agree with your accusation against that poster. But I see she has already spoken for herself. It bears pointing out, once again, that you guys STARTED all of these debates. You and the other Muslim poster were the first to claim, "Islam granted women voting rights 1400 years ago" and "women are equal in Islam" and "Islam treats women captives well" and "there are more Muslim converts than immigrants." And you said all these things without any qualifications or links whatsoever. In each case, it took dozens of pages to drag elaboration out of you, for example to get your statement above about men having different burdens from women. And who could forget how you guys kept alluding to the verses about the purity pledge, but you both flat out refused to post them here, repeatedly told us to google for ourselves, and finally a non-Muslim cut and pasted them here. Or when you were asked to provide proof for your convert claim, you got all nasty about it, somebody posted Pew numbers that proved you were massively wrong, and then you immediately started crying Islamophobia. If you can't deal with disagreement, may I suggest that you not make controversial claims in the first place.[/quote]
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