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[b]Tell me  -- what do you think people should have done in those times with the large numbers of women who were left alone and behind after their husbands, fathers, uncles were killed in war? How would women have supported themselves? 
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Women have supported themselves before Islam and during Islam just fine.  I think a really good way not to create large numbers of women left behind would have been not to kill their husbands, fathers and uncles.  But hey, if you think the only way to take care of them was to usurp their right to their bodies, who am I to argue?

(There ARE ways of taking care of women without sleeping with them, you know.)[/quote]

[b]Ahhhh…there were many ways of women supporting themselves in 600 AD, you say? And many did support themselves too? But you just can't, to save your life, think of those ways right now though? Supreme bs answer. [/b]

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Muhammad's first wife was a rich lady.  Weren't there business women? Tradeswomen? Property owners? Women from rich families? Come now.[/quote]
Besides, you say this like their fathers, husbands and brothers just dropped dead from a sudden bout of flu.  There were dead at wars that Muslims participated in, both defensively and offensively.  Might there have been fewer widows if the Muslim empire didn't feel the need to expand?[/quote]

[b]Yes, Muhammad's first wife was a rich merchant. And so your logic goes something like this -- Muhammads first wife was a rich merchant, therefore all women in 600 AD were as well. Is that it? 
And to add, male guardians of women died only from Muslim murderers. There was no such thing as Christian crusaders who murdered anyone, though. Only Muslims murdered and left women orphans and widows. Is that your logic? 
I just want to make sure DCUMers can see the inner workings of your mind.[/b][/quote]
My logic is that sleeping with their owners, frequently the very same people at whose hands their husbands died, wasn't the ONLY way women could support themselves. [/quote]

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