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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Oh wow isn't it so fun to blame the poor for all of society’s ills and to try to shame them into eschewing sex until their poverty magically disappears![/quote]

Nobody is "blaming the poor for all of society's ills."  We are blaming a system that allows poverty to perpetuate.  
And, the poverty will not magically disappear.  In fact, the poverty will "magically grow" since we are incentivizing bad behavior.
Call it what you want - we are in essence, rewarding those who make poor choices by not expecting them to ever be accountable for their actions.  [/quote]

Being poor sounds like a walk in the park, the way you tell it. [/quote]

This is not about the truly poor.  The subject of the post is the welfare recipients who continue to have children despite the fact that they have not taken the time to "build a nest" in order to nurture them, care for them, feed them.   If you think that our current system does a great job of helping people get out of poverty, then why do we continue to have millions of people in poverty today?  Our system is broken.  
I do believe most people believe in providing assistance to those who are making an effort to help themselves - include me in this belief.  Perhaps if we could find a way to stop incentivizing this destructive behavior of having children when you cannot afford it - YES, destructive - to the child and to society - then perhaps we could start working on really making a dent in reducing poverty by providing assistance, training, education, etc. to those who are looking to make something of their lives.  [/quote]

[i]"Forthwith, any and all procreation for those who are receiving public assistance is strictly prohibited until they reach a predetermined annual income as designate by their poverty-probation case worker."[/i]

First of all, do you realize how sickeningly elitist that sounds?  That's completely asinine, ignorant, and arrogant for a government "of the people, by the people, for the people" to be so bold as to put a ban/limit on a woman's right to reproduce.  Second of all, the whole concept is unnecessary.  The myth of the irresponsible "welfare slut" who can't close her legs having babies by the dozen and the myth of the "welfare queen" who deliberately gets pregnant to abuse the system are just that - MYTHS.  The average family on welfare has 2.8 children and furthermore, only one out of every 10 mothers on welfare has more than 3 children.  The final point I would like to make (although I could go on and on) is that even in instances when the seemingly destructive behavior of having children when you cannot afford it occurs - it isn't guaranteed destruction.  How many accomplished individuals speak of coming from impoverished homes with their parent(s) working 3/4 jobs to make ends for meet their children?  How many success stories have come from situations where a woman was on welfare and pregnant again - but despite her seemingly dire circumstances managed to make something of herself and make a better life for her children?

You know what would really help - if people stop generalizing and stereotyping people who are on public assistance.

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