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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][b]From where I'm sitting it seems the anti-AAP posters are trying vey hard to drown out voices that disagree with them[/b]. BTW, see the other thread on this board right now on which a number of posters have posted similar observations that middle school honors classes seem to be significantly less challenging than AAP.[/quote]

You're kidding, right?  Every time a parent of a Gen Ed student (or of both GE and AAP students) has an opinion regarding AAP, s/he is completely dismissed by those who only have AAP kids and who feel AAP is the end-all, be-all.  It's amazing to me that FCPS bends over backwards to accomodate all the parents who insist their child be in this program.  If the admissions criteria were raised, we wouldn't be having the problem of over-crowding and likely most current AAP students would instead be in Gen Ed.  If FCPS spent a fraction of the energy, money, and time on Gen Ed students that they've been spending on AAP issues like testing, identification, over-crowding, etc., imagine what a great General Ed. program we would have.  But instead, they're completely cowed by aggressive, pushy parents who insist on the status quo (not particularly high admittance criteria) so that their average kids can be in the program.  The whole system is corrupt and is failing the majority of kids in FCPS, the Gen Ed population.  Not to mention the highly gifted kids who aren't even in a gifted program.[/quote]

I don't know how many more times you can repeat this same mantra that the AAP program is responsible for so many of the school system's problems but the only takers are parents with a similar axe to grind, presumably parents of kids I can only assume you would describe as what, below average?  I don't know why you believe it is responsible for all overcrowding; it's not at all clear that it is failing the GE population -- there are many arguments to the contrary; the budget for AAP is actually quite small and pales in comparison to GE and certainly to Special Ed, which serves far fewer children, probably compared to a number of other programs, especially in relation to kids served. [b]Also, stop with the constant implication that every defender of AAP has "average children"? Believe it or not, there are many families around here with multiple kids with 130 and 140+ test scores (yes, uncoached), high GBRS, etc -- their crime is to accept the placement their child's teachers and the school system said was appropriate?[/b]  Many moved here because they knew our child(ren) were candidates. I can assure you that many of these parents believe the system has been corrupted, if at all, by political correctness and trying to please parents like yourself, even when it's not educationally sound.

What's your end goal anyway -- you really think that you'd prefer an "average" student population? Or you just want to pretend everyone's the same? Do you not want to acknowledge that the AAP program in FCPS has long been considered a model system, which attracts and retains some of the brightest children and their families to come to FCPS?  You could drive out many of the truly "highly gifted" but if not you still might not really be happy with the resulting model . . .  Based on your post's fuzzy logic and unfounded accusations, I suppose that the program just makes you so crazy for personal reasons that you just want it gone, and you'll blame anything and everything on it, reason and reality be damned.[/quote]

AMEN to this post...I actually had one GE parent insinuate that my DC would not be in AAP if it weren't for the low standards-how the heck do they presume to know my kid's CoGAT and GBRS? Really huge chip on their shoulder...and again, this thread is way off topic because of the AAP haters in the crowd..[/quote]

This thread isn't off-topic at all.  The issue is overcrowding at AAP centers, specifically Longfellow.  The reason there is overcrowding there in the first place is due to the over-admittance of kids to AAP.  It's a pretty simple connection to make.[/quote]

[b]Just not true.  First of all, Longfellow is still under capacity, so I don't even know why you are saying it's so overcrowded[/b].  Perhaps you have just heard the "sky is falling" predictions -- FCPS data is notoriously unreliable and often manipulated to advance an agenda -- in this case the goal of starting center at Cooper.  Yes, LMS is a very large middle school, no doubt, but it was built & renovated to accommodate 1350 kids.  Perhaps you know that a lot of those kids are in AAP?  But the vast majority of them would attend Longfellow whether they were in AAP or GE, as it is their base MS.  Whether they were "over-admitted" to AAP -- complete speculation on your part anyway -- really makes little difference to the enrollment at LMS.  The smallest population at LMS are the kids attending for AAP from other base middle schools, and anyone familiar with this group of kids, many of whom are the top math kids, top science olympiad, many headed for TJ -- they are not the poster children for your theory that AAP has let in a bunch of average kids.[/quote]

Then why is the subject of this thread, "Longfellow MS AAP overcrowding plans"?  I'm one of the Cooper parents who would very much prefer not having a center at Cooper, but according to some (rumors?) here on DCUM, Cooper will indeed be starting a center to "help alleviate overcrowding at Longfellow's AAP center".  So, which is it?  What is the truth here?[/quote]

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