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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Immigrants, like you, also want their children to attend and learn at good public schools so that they can do better than their parents in life -- it is not right to tell immigrants that their children are not deserving of an education because they can only aspire to certain jobs that require no college degree.

No one is saying that. What they are saying is that [b]it isn't right for these children to count as 2 students instead of 1 student and get extra resources[/b]. They are certainly deserving of an education, just not special treatment.[/quote]

How, exactly, are these students who are the children of immigrants counted as two students?  Are AAP children or special education students similarly counted as two students because they receive special resources?  I really do not know, so please explain.  Thank you.[/quote]

I would like to know this, too, and I am an ESOL teacher.  I know ESOL counts are figured differently for staffing, but as far as I know, they do not count as 2 people (I thought it was something like 1.2 or something like that).  That said, we need smaller class sizes.  I currently have a class of 17 students in ESOL 1.  Some of them know a little bit of spoken English and some know absolutely nothing.  I don't speak Spanish, but from what others tell me, their spoken and written Spanish is really elementary, too.  Many of them have very little education in their home language.  They are 16-20 years old, yet they don't know how to act in a school setting because where they came from it was a free for all in school.  It is basically like teaching kindergarten or 1st grade in a 17 year old body.  How many of these types of students do you think I should have in class so that they could learn and progress and hopefully graduate?  We are doing the best we can, but it is nearly an impossible task when these kids come here with so little education at such a late age.  This is not all ESOL , of course.  We certainly have kids at other levels who are educated and move and progress, but there are certainly many, many students in FCPS who are like the ones I described above.  [/quote]

I am certain that you are a good and devoted ESOL teacher.  However, shouldn't ESOL classes generally (where possible) be grouped by native language spoken, and taught by an instructor who is proficient in the students' native language?[/quote]

That's bilingual education and we don't have that here in Virginia.  [/quote]

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