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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]As a Christian (I guess, I'm more Unitarian, but what ever) I find the idea of a Seder being run at a church to be somewhat disrespectful.  A Seder is a jewish tradition and unless it is an innerfaith (i.e. attended by both jewish and christian people with the purpose being to teach the christians about the seder) it seems like the church is trying to "look" multi-cultural while making another religious tradition into something of their own.  I don't know - UUs are very big on learning about other traditions but we have rules about how to do it respectfully - one of those is having someone of the faith there and telling us how to do it.  I can see why some jewish people would find it uncomfortable.[/quote]

Plus, [b]you just think Christian churches are out there scheming everyday about how to offend other religions?  Get a life.[/b]  Maybe get to know an actual Christian before making uninformed and inflammatory statements.[/quote]

News flash: this is EXACTLY what prostelytizing feels like to people who are on the receiving end. It's a plain fact that some churches ARE out there everyday talking to people of other religions and trying to get them to become Christians.  It is a tenet of the faith for many.  Maybe not you, but if you deny that this is a part of Christianity, you don't know much about your own religion.  Anyway, to Jews and others who aren't interested, it is very often offensive.[/quote]

Well then you are too easily offended.  Just say thank you but I am very happy in my faith and move on.  I am a Catholic and I have never in my life proselytized or been asked to by mu clergy.  And I fail to see what holding a reenactment of the last supper for the benefit of a particular congregation only has to do with proselytizing anyway.[/quote]

*laugh* Thanks for the tip, but trust me, American Jews (at least) are experienced at fielding attempted conversion attempts. :)

Not that you care about me, but FYI, I agree that it's not necessarily offensive. Some people aren't offensive at all. (IME, the little old ladies are particularly skilled, the teenagers, particularly unskilled.)

As you well know, this is not a tenet for Catholics so I'm not talking about you. Identify as a Catholic and you won't elicit this in others.  Identify as a Christian and know that you are associating yourself with elements that can cross lines--some which consider it their responsibility to cross lines.

This post had nothing to do with passover. I just thought it was an interesting blind spot that you weren't aware how it feels to be preached at.[/quote]

How do you know I am not aware?  I have been waylayed by Mormons, Evangelicals, Scientologists, and others.  Jews aren't unique in being proselytized to.[/quote]

Duh. I didn't think you were aware because of the tone of the bolded part above--rude and dismissive with no sign that you understand or care WHY one might think a church-run Seder could be disrespectful.[/quote]

I don't think anything that I wrote was rude or dismissive.  I find it hilarious that people think Christian clergy spend the bulk of their time thinking of ways to offend people of other faiths.  Or that people spend so much time and energy being angry about the attempts of some Christians to engage in conversion.  If you are strong in your faith, what does it matter?  When I have been proselytized to by others it has generally always been a respectful conversation.  The ones that haven't don't bother me, though.  I know they have NO chance of converting me, so I just end the conversation and move on. You and others on here seem to take it really, really personally.

I think we'll just have to agree to disagree. You seem to be determined to take offense at things that are in no way meant to offend you.  So have at it.  Christians are bad and disrespectful.  Fine.  Let's move on.[/quote]

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