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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Look, let's just be honest here.  This kid was not ivy+ material.  He also didn't get into his flagship university, UC Berkeley.  Where he landed makes a lot of sense.[/quote]

Berkeley and UCLA are considered equally prestigious. Rankings and admissions rates are about the same. For Neuroscience I’d give the edge to UCLA because of the medical school.

What’s Ivy+ material? Berkeley and UCLA kids are not below Ivy, you’re just being ridiculous. I’d take in state UCLA over Dartmouth or Cornell any day. [/quote]

Not true at all.  The gap between UC Berkeley and UCLA is huge.  UC Berkeley is miles ahead.

It also doesn’t come close to any of the Ivy+ schools.  Comparing any of the UCs to Dartmouth or Cornell is just delusional.[/quote]

The gap is huge? You really are clueless.

US News rankings: Berkeley 15, UCLA 17
Admission rates: Berkeley 11%, UCLA 9.4%

Their rankings are comparable to Dartmouth (13) and Cornell (12). Berkeley would be better for engineering, UCLA for health and life sciences, but you’re splitting hairs here, the individual qualities will matter more. For many families depending on finances and post undergrad plans, UCLA or Cal in state would make more sense. It doesn’t mean those kids are not Ivy+ material, just that they need to consider a multitude of factors.[/quote]

Nope.  This thread already discusses at length why the US News rankings are wrong, so I’m not going to repeat that here.

UCLA is second tier after UC Berkeley and everybody knows this.  Denying it is like trying to convince yourself that your second place consolation prize is just as good as first place.  UCLA is just a satellite campus within the UC system.  The flagship is Berkeley.[/quote]

Everybody knows this! Except, apparently, the nearly 2/3 of applicants who are accepted to both Cal and UCLA  and who consistently choose to attend UCLA over Cal.

Incidentally, roughly same preference rate for UCLA over Cornell.

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A lot of in state residents need to live close to home.  For the same reasons they cannot leave the state.  A combination of lacking independence and also needing to save money through in state tuition and being close to home.[/quote]

Oh, that’s your explanation now for the fact that nearly twice as many cross-admitted applicants choose UCLA over Cal every year? Despite the fact that Cal is “miles ahead”?

Respectfully, GTFOH …[/quote]

LA is popular with the TikTok generation.  All the serious students are at Berkeley while UCLA gets these non-academic types.[/quote]

+100 this student with 25 APs is a great example of the TikTok generation.  No depth in knowledge.  Just superficial and basic.[/quote]

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