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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Since there are accommodations for lots of things, why can’t my kid get one since he has issues with staying on task when on a laptop??  And I know he is not alone. [/quote]
It doesn’t really matter.  Teachers are not prepared to teach without devices and technology, they just aren’t.  One kid having an IEP to not use a device isn’t going to change how the teacher instructs the class and interaction with students or the work they do.  That kid will just be given some generic afterthought worksheet. Not only do devices need to be out of classes, there needs to be a systematic change to how teachers are teaching.  It is so bad.  [/quote]
+1000

The resistance to change from teachers is so telling. They are addicted to edtech[/quote]
It’s no the 90s anymore. “Edtech” is now and will always be apart education it’s been like this for the last 10-15 years.[/quote]
I don’t buy this, entire countries are going back to textbooks because the evidence that edtech doesn’t help education is overwhelming. [/quote]
Is thar true boo?[/quote]
It's pretty obvious as outcomes have gotten worse since 2010 when schools started implementing them. Edtech has a clear record of failing kids.[/quote]
Correlation isn't causation, dipsht. [/quote]
NP here.  It's fine if you don't, but many researchers think the relationship between Edtech/smartphones and declining educational outcomes is causal, not just correlation.  What is your hypothesis?[/quote]

I’m not the poster you are responding to. While I agree most tech use in schools should go, I think that it isn’t just tech use in schools causing the declining educational outcomes.  It is use at home AND schools.  I think you can make a little bit of headway when you get rid of tech in schools, but use outside of school needs to be banned as well.  The stakes are too high and the attention span of children will keep eroding if we allow tech use outside of school.  THE devices were designed to interrupt thought.  The reason why you get a flashing pop up in the right corner of the screen is because our reptilian brain sees it better there and will immediately respond.  We are primed right now to respond to tech.  If you just ban it in schools, you are not going to defeat the problem.  [/quote]
I agree with you that it's both home and school.  Jonathan Haidt (who is worried not just about school outcomes but anxiety, depression and loneliness too - topics for a different thread) has written about both factors.

It seems like the tide is turning on political will for both school and home devices.  We are seeing the under 16 social media ban in Australia.  Some countries' schools are reducing computer use like Sweden (https://learningenglish.voanews.com/a/sweden-brings-books-handwriting-back-to-school/7277000.html) and Finland (https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/books-screens-out-some-finnish-pupils-go-back-paper-after-tech-push-2024-09-10/).  We are seeing cell phone bans in schools in Norway (https://nbc24.com/news/nation-world/norways-school-cell-phone-ban-boosts-student-grades-health-model-us-schools-parents-children-development-reading-abilities-mental-health-human-contact-policy).  [/quote]

Agree it’s both.  But kids are at school 7 hrs per day 180 days per year.  Those hours are specifically set aside for education and there are decisions being made on how those hours are spent by experts.  [b]There is zero excuse for using EdTech at school when we know the outcomes are poor.[/b]  The school board, principal, teachers, and all the people deciding how kids should be taught can’t control what happens at home- but they can control what happens at school.  No one can ban screen use at home, but schools absolutely can at school. [/quote]

This is the only thing we need to know about this. But follow the money. [/quote]

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