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The differences in opportunities as far as course availability, facilities and equipment, and student groups is just so incredibly stark when compared to even the best base schools.

So yeah, it's possible that it might be a little harder to get into the most elite colleges from TJ... but as the years and decades have gone by, the value add from those schools has been depressed significantly AND you're increasing your chances of admission by a relatively small amount - it's by no means a guarantee. [/quote]

This is ridiculous. Let me guess: you're sending out annual surveys that are answered by professors and employers from senior year of HS onward? No, this is what you're telling yourself. The answer is that very bright kids generally do well no matter where they are.

That's like a base HS kid who goes to an ivy league looking at the TJ kid going to VCU and saying "kids in the top of their HSs who get into the ivies dominate because their colleges are far superior to lower ranked colleges. We have more money from the endowment pouring in!!" The answer is that bright kids are bright and do well no matter where they are, and that includes middle school to base HS OR TJ and then base HS OR TJ on to x college.

[b]- We turned TJ down for base HS and my kid is heading to an ivy next year. It is NOT "a little" harder to getting into elite schools from TJ. It's a lot harder. We strategically picked our local HS.[/b][/quote]

This is smart. [/quote]

Thanks…hard decision four years ago - but we felt it was the right one for us then and we are very glad we did it. [/quote]

No offense but I don't buy that it is a LOT harder to get into elite schools from TJ.

None of the kids I know that got into HYPSM from Langley would have had much trouble at TJ.
Most of the handw5ringing these days is the gross underperformance of the kids that are getting in under the new admissions process that would not have gotten in under the prior admissions process.
Aside from that there is a fairly significant effect for kids that might have gotten into UVA from their base school that will not get in from TJ.

TJ sends almost as many kids to HYPSM as the rest of FCPS combined.[/quote]

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D[b]o you even have a current 11th-12th grade TJ student or a TJ grad from ‘25? [/quote]
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I'd love the answer to this...[/quote]

I have a TJ grad, not '25.[/quote]

Year? If you don't have current information, your input needs to be viewed through that lens. College admissions are not what they were even 4 years ago. [/quote]

So you're saying that 4 years going to TJ was possibly a good idea but it isn't today?  Why?[/quote]

DP - College admissions should not be the end-stage outcome nor should it be considered a pre-requisite for the end-stage outcome.

Even if it is slightly harder to get to certain schools from TJ than it is elsewhere (and I'm not convinced it is except in certain cases), [b]it doesn't matter[/b] because college admissions just isn't that big a deal anymore.

TJ kids are increasingly exiting college early to found their companies that they'll sell for 7-8 figures and start over again. And the colleges they're leaving aren't Harvard or Princeton.

Don't screw your kid over because you're stuck in a 2005 mindset.[/quote]

I think what a lot of parents don't understand is that undergrad is not really a terminal degree anymore.[/quote]

Spot on. Or how easy transferring can be in a lot of cases, especially in-state.[/quote]

I don't think people go to TJ thinking that college options will be worse for many (had they just stayed at their base school) but they realize they can just transfer. Our friends with current seniors are all disappointed right now (ED rejections, UVA deferrals).  [/quote]
I think a lot of people (including the FCPS board) have the wrong idea about TJ
It's not an award, it's an opportunity.
It's an opportunity in a "that which doesn't kill you makes you stronger" sort of way.
Admitting kids along hierarchies of equity rather than hierarchies of competency was a disservice to everyone.

It's been said on this board a thousand times and it is not controversial to say that you shouldn't go to TJ to improve college admissions results.[/quote]

Yeah, why do merely smart kids deserve opportunity?[/quote]

Because they are the[b] [b]only ones [/b]that can take advantage of that opportunity.  The only ones it won't kill but will actually make stronger.[/quote]

🤦‍♀️ people believe this.[/quote]

Because it's true.

Place an unprepared kid at TJ and they drown and fail.[/quote]

Lots of smart kids don't attend TJ. Lots and lots and lots.[/quote]

The questions was why the opportunity was limited to smart kids.

It may not catch all smart kids but that is an argument for expanding the program not lowering standards.

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Are you implying that TJ catches the majority of smart kids in FCPS?[/quote]

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