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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Nature is harsh. You can prepare and have all the experience and training and equipment in the world but when it becomes man against natural forces - be it fire, water, cold, snow - nature is stronger.

But there is also an incredible amount of reward for spending time in nature and reaping the benefits of the beauty and adventure. Is there a risk - of course. But life has risk and you only live one life. We can all die tomorrow. For those of us who aren't risk adverse, you accept the risk of nature and adventure just like you do every time you get in your car. [/quote]

Growing up without your mom because she wasn't risk adverse and loved nature? I doubt most kids think that's worth the cost. [/quote]

Its a fluke accident. That is why it made the news. Women and yes mothers (and fathers) go into the backcountry and the ocean and other places that have risk - all the time and 99.999% of the time, it all goes well.  Driving a car is still more dangerous. [/quote]

Not a fluke accident at all.[/quote]

Will wait to hear from the survivors about their decision making. I don't believe that the guides, the tour company, and the women were completely indifferent to all the warnings, intentionally ignored all protocols, and deliberately put themselves directly into harms way. [/quote]

They set out on a ski trip on Sunday with warnings of extreme weather approaching. That was a stupid decision. [/quote]

New poster here. I can imagine they felt pressure to participate. Group think is the most dangerous dynamic when assessing risk.  They booked this 9 months ago apparently. I imagine they were excited, spent much energy and time planning it out, and I assume a few of them were pushing harder for it, and the others fell in line and agreed. This happens in all groups.

The biggest lesson is if you feel there’s a risk, bow out - even if it means disappointing your group or losing big money. [/quote]

I wonder what the reasoning was for the person who stayed behind was? Initial reports said that 16 people were on the trip, but the number was revised down to 15 after it was determined one person didn't go. It's possible they were sick, or had another reason, but now I'm curious.[/quote]

I know them. They had the flu.

The rest of the speculation here is absolutely ignorant and stupid. The best article I have seen is here:

https://abcnews.com/US/avalanche-expert-survivors-hold-answers-wrong-fatal-california/story?id=130306992

For context, Tremper is one of the experts in avalanche training and forecasting, and literally wrote the book on avalanche education. [/quote]

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