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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It all goes to show we 
1.) need to bolster worker protections back up and [b]pay living wages,[/b] and 
2.) we need to tax big corporations and the billionaires enriched by them a bit more.
That much is crystal clear.

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Everybody loves to say we need to “pay living wages” but what does that MEAN?

How is the amount of “living wage” determined? 
There are teenage employees still living with parents, or single people living with roommates. They don’t need as much to live on as a single mom with three kids who needs an apartment or house. Does that mean the minimum wage should be set according to what the highest need is? Walmart should pay everyone as if they are feeding a family of four?

What if someone just isn’t ever going to be highly efficient or productive? Would you be happier if those individuals are unemployed and receive welfare? Because that is what happens when wage floors are set. [/quote]

What do you mean when you say productive?

And are you aware that employed Walmart workers already receive welfare?[/quote]

By productive, I mean as an example I can scan 5 carts of groceries in 15 minutes vs 2 carts of groceries in 15 minutes.  Or I can lift 10 crates in 2 minutes vs 5 crates. Or in addition to scanning groceries I also know how to provide customer service. Some people are naturally better workers than others. They usually grow their skills and obtain higher wages. But for those who don’t, and are just scanning the groceries, it is better for them to be employed than not.

And yes, of course I am aware that Walmart employees already receive benefits. But it’s not Walmart’s fault that there’s a single mom with a deadbeat ex who needs benefits in order to make ends meet. It’s not Walmart’s fault that some of its employees have kids they can’t afford. It’s not Walmart’s fault that some of their employees never progress beyond the most menial of tasks. And it isn’t Walmart’s fault that things like housing and healthcare, both of which receive large government subsidies, have become so unaffordable that even middle class salaries have a hard time affording them. 
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Do you think walmart cashiers are paid according to how quickly they scan groceries?

[b]You’re so f—king stupid you’re not worth talking to[/b]. Although I’m curious what “skills” you have and how “productive” you are. Please share with the class, we could all use a good laugh.[/quote]

What an awesome, smart person you must be. What a genius way to win hearts and minds!!

Truth is, I started out as many do. My parents didn’t go to college. My dad worked as a mailman and then had varying success as a small businessman while my mom worked in a factory. My first jobs were in grocery stores and retail. I took student loans and went to college, first gen, blah blah blah. Got a low level call center job, then figured out Microsoft Excel, picked up some accounting skills, eventually went on to build databases, went to on SQL, Python, data analysis with some legal stuff thrown in. Nothing irreplaceable, and I am not that special, but there is a reason I make 150k and not $15 an hour.

I know that grocery stores generally don’t pay some people more than others based on how fast you can scan a cart. I also know that if you have some hustle and are efficient, you can make much more than minimum wage while working at Aldi. Not everyone is cut out for that though… some cannot handle the pace. For those, there is Giant.
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Oh, honey. You are suffering under tge delusion that your heart and mind are worth winning. I assure you, they are not. You are a garbage person to your core.[/quote]

You will never make the world a better place with that attitude.

Did I say Walmart is great? 
Did I say they shouldn’t be paying more in taxes?

Would you answer PPs question - is it an employers responsibility to provide a wage that meets an employee’s needs, whatever they are, regardless of the work being performed?

Why won’t you answer this?

Oh right, because it is better to call people garbage and try and shut down any meaningful conversation.[/quote]

DP. You literally blamed the people who work at Walmart, rather than Waltons who are all billionaires (not just one, all !). You said they should all work at ALDI like that’s the simplest thing in the world. Problem solved.

Do you shop at Walmart with your $150k salary that you earn for nothing special?

You really should read up on how Walmart’s policies put hundreds of thousands out of work, were the biggest drivers of sending manufacturing jobs to China, how they disproportionately their employees use taxpayer-funded social services, and how their low prices contributed to overconsumption and the destruction of the planet. [/quote]

Do you believe it is an employer’s responsibility to pay whatever a particular employee needs due to their personal circumstances?[/quote]

Who is more important to the company, front line workers or shareholders? Why should taxpayers have to subsidize businesses who should pay a living wage?[/quote]

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