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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I really hope the DNC understands that many of us won't be able to get behind a candidate who is silent and unseen NOW, when our democracy is being systematically dismantled. Don't try to shove a candidate down our throats who is carefully curated but had no discernable stance when it mattered. The DNC should understand that but I'm afraid they don't. [/quote]

NP. The ugly issue we have is this: the DNC is seeing internal polling indicating just how unpopular the Biden-era immigration positions really were. And, the people pushing those positions are still in leadership in the DNC.

This is a tough and nuanced issue. ICE itself employs a large number of working class Latinos. People don’t like police executions but they also do not like feeling that they are paying high taxes for benefits that illegal immigrants get while they don’t get those benefits. I’m in blue California and the undercurrent of anger about the health care and housing benefits that undocumented people get versus what is available to working and middle class people is palpable.

Right now the DNC is running almost entirely on “Trump bad.” And yes of course that is true, he is as awful and horrific as possible (I mean the fact that nothing was surprising about him out of yesterday’s Epstein release should tell us how awful he is). But “Trump bad” doesn’t substitute for leadership.

To be clear, I am extremely opposed to what ICE does and how it operates. It is wrong across the board. But I also think DCUM posters in general do not realize just how out of step they are with the rest of the country, probably because DCUM posters are very insulated in general from the impact of the DNC immigration positions. [/quote]

Who cares what the DNC or RNC leadership thinks, says or does??? They don't speak for the American people. They speak first and foremost for ultra wealthy entities that donate most of the billions of dollars they piss away each election cycle. The America people have to rise up and take power back from the corrupt RNC and DNC. Ignore them and put your support behind a people's candidate in 2028. [/quote]

Agree. I will not vote for another establishment Dem again. If that means we lose, we lose. [/quote]

The majority of people will support the people's candidate and therefore they won't "lose". [/quote]

I truly hope so. I have no interest in being a Dem that looks like a Republican [/quote]

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