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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]What you are missing is that even if your ISMs are undetectable, their interactions with the world are detectable.  Sticking with your scenario, the scissors are observable.  If they suddenly start moving under some unknown force (or if they suddenly dissappear- say your ISM has a hand fully wrapped around it) that is observable.  What is observable is measurable which means we can collect data.

Also, we dont have to observe all scissors in all households in the entire world all the time.  We only need a statically representative sampling.

Thus, this is why your scenario was a bad thought experiment in the first place.

If you are trying to make a broader point about god, the same applies. We have natural explanations that dont require any input from some god being. [/quote]

Dude, it’s not that deep. The main point was they were undetectable. The disappearing scissors were tongue-in-cheek. :lol:

The discussion was around how it’s hard to “prove” a negative. [b]So if you don’t have any evidence showing that something [i]doesn’t[/i] exist, can you say with 100% certainty that they don’t exist? [/b]

I don’t personally need “evidence” to say that certain absurd things don’t exist. Like ISMs, FSM, gods, etc. But apparently other people do. 
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Yes.

If there is zero evidence for something, then the default position is that it doesn't exist. The buren of proof lies in making a positive claim FOR something.

Unless and until evidence is brought forward to affirm a claim, it matters not what anyone may believe to be.

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