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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Imagine having to pay some teenager the equivalent of roughly $55k per year just to wash dishes or scrub toilets:

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/workers-labor-advocates-call-for-dc-to-raise-minimum-wage-to-25/4025867/

R.I.P. DC economy. No am I going to pay $100/entree for mediocre food or, $900/night for a garbage hotel simply because businesses have to cover out control labor costs. [/quote]

No teenagers are washing dishes or scrubbing toilets.

And BTW, why shouldn't people who do those jobs earn that much? Those are hard jobs. They certainly have more importance and value than, say, lobbying, consulting, private equity or being a legislative aide.

But, oh, wait, you were TROLLING, weren't you?[/quote]

You know what's hard? Clearing debris out of a field like rolling stones and moving logs. Just because it is hard doesnt mean it is valuable.  It requires zero mental aptitude and zero special skills like carpentry or electrical knowledge. Why should we over reward low skill, low knowledge jobs?  [/quote]

Because they’re far more important than carpentry, electrical or clearing debris from a field.

You like clean bathrooms and plates, amrite? You value those more than a mitre cut doorframe? You certainly use them more frequently.

High knowledge jobs aren’t valuable. Someone who does, say, content marketing or is a lawyer or accountant is not nearly as important to society as people who clean toilets and dishes. [/quote]

What did communists use before candles?

Electricity.[/quote]

It’s communism for people to make enough money to live near their work. Proper capitalism requires a soul-grinding commute to remind workers of their natural inferiority.[/quote]

Renting a room is living where you work. It's communism to believe that a dishwasher's salary should be able to support a family of four without additional government assistance. [/quote]

I think it stems from the narrative that supposedly in the good old boomer days minimum wage workers were able to buy a home on one salary and support a stay home wife with 2-3 kids.  Anyone can personally verify this was the fact?  :lol:  Back in the 90s in HCOL places minimum wage was not enough to even have your own room in a shared housing and eat anything that's not expired garbage grocery stores are getting rid of.  When was this golden age where any full time employment of any kind could afford you an SFH in a good area that's not urban blight or rural wasteland?  :lol: [/quote]

This has never been the narrative.  Back in the boomer times of the 1960s, minimum wage was for teenagers and others working jobs for extra income, but never a job that could support a family…mainly because there were union and other FT jobs that paid way more than minimum wage that you could obtain with just a HS diploma.[/quote]

Then the issue we have not is not minimum wage jobs but disappearing upward mobility and fewer opportunities to make a living for people without certain education or family connections.

The fact that we had moved towards service economy is one of the reasons.  Another reason is massive outsourcing of skilled jobs and education requiring jobs, as well as import of foreign labor.  There are other factors too, like preference for part time or flexible gig work that new tech advancements made possible. If given a choice humans would not generally prefer to spend most of their time working for someone else with rigid hours and locations. Everyone is trying to get out of rat race of full time work obligations however they can. Why so many ordinary people are ultra focused on investing, not just earning and saving and "get rich quick" schemes.  Because our labor environment sucks. [/quote]

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