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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I have a UVA kid and I literally don't understand this uproar. I have another kid at Michigan and there you have $$$$$ monied kids from NJ and NY. Insane money and snobbery. No, they will never fully accept my kid. My kid will never run in their circles. And IT'S OKAY.

My kids have their own friends and their own lives. These are both large schools. My kids (at both places) are very happy.  End of story. [/quote]

Could you give a breakdown between the schools, is it worth oos to go to Michigan and why your kids picked one over the other (and vice versa)? 
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I'm not PP but I also have two FCPS DCs who went to Michigan OOS and UVA instate.  The choice wasn't theirs to make: each had 4.3 wGPA, 1500 SAT, 9-10 APs, but one was admitted Michigan RD/rejected UVA and the other was admitted UVA EA/waitlisted Michigan.  Both are liberal arts, e.g., CAS and LSA.

Michigan is much bigger, so it can get overwhelming. Undergraduates have to manage the Michigan bureaucracy by themselves, without much institutional support.  There is a noticeable instate/OOS socioeconomic gap, particularly noticeable from the wealthy California and East Coast OOS students.   However, there are in-state wealthy students and poorer OOS students, so the gap is not always evident in daily life, even though the instate/OOS split is 51/49.  The Michigan DC was very happy in Ann Arbor, graduated this year and has an economic consulting job in DC.

UVA feels smaller to us, even though it is still much larger than a SLAC.  The institution seems more supportive of both students and their parents, and acts more like a private institution sometimes.  There is less of an instate/OOS gap than at Michigan, which IMHO is because of the 67/33 instate/OOS split, but also because the majority of undergraduates are from NOVA (53.8%) and many of them and of the Richmond students (and definitely more of the OOS students) are from UMC families.  As a result, we felt the students had more disposable income and give grounds a more "posh" atmosphere.   It doesn't matter what they dress as, they can afford the types of restaurants and bars in Charlottesville for which most Michigan students couldn't afford if they were in Ann Arbor.  Academically, both schools appear to be comparable to our DCs, although that might not be the case for STEM. The UVA DC is very happy in Charlottesville.

So as a value proposition, Michigan OOS was worth it to us.  As compared to UVA instate? Probably not, but for the Michigan DC it was worth the $ as Michigan was the dream school.  As compared to a SLAC? That depends on your DC. I went to a SLAC and we knew the Michigan DC would not have fit in at a SLAC.  As compared to an Ivy?  Again, probably not except for Cornell, which seems comparable to us, but again Michigan was the Michigan DC's dream school and DC wouldn't have been as happy at an Ivy.

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👏🏼 excellent post. Thanks [/quote]

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