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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Also each PSAT section maxes out at 760, not 800, so 224 for California out of a maximum of 228 is actually quite hard. Only three combinations are possible: • Perfect reading + up to 40 points off in math • 10 points off in reading + up to 20 points off in math • 20 points off in reading + perfect math That's it. At least California is not New Jersey, Massachusetts, or DC where the cutoff is 225 which means only these would make the cut: • Perfect reading + up to 30 points off in math • 10 points off in reading + up to 10 points off in math Respect for those who made NMSF in these states 🫡[/quote] Is there a way to know how many kids from other states achieved 224 or higher even though the state cutoff was lower?[/quote] Not that I know of. Art Sawyer at Compass (https://www.compassprep.com/national-merit-semifinalist-cutoffs/) has this big table listing the number of NMSFs for each state (second column from the right) but that is based on the state cutoff, not on 224. But those numbers can be used as lower or upper bounds for states whose cutoffs differ from 224. For example, at 224 cutoff, California has exactly 2172 and Maryland has exactly 348, achieving 224. At 225 cutoff, New Jersey has [b]at least[/b] 511, Massachusetts has [b]at least[/b] 282, and DC has [b]at least[/b] 37, achieving 224. As another example – for those who think the south is becoming the bastion of education with endless threads on DCUM – at 214 cutoff, Alabama has [b]at most[/b] 228 achieving 224, with the actual number likely being MUCH lower since 214 is 10 index point below 224 and since Gaussian tail thins out quickly.[/quote] TBF, the South is popular for its colleges, and it's past 5 years of remedial elementary school reform, not for the brilliance of its tippy top current and recent high school students. [/quote]
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