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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I haven't read the article.  Obviously, women should be treated as equals, etc, but I think it is worth asking questions about whether many of feminism's achievements have actually improved things for women.  Arguably, women now have to do everything a man has to do, in addition to everything that women do, and it doesn't seem like this is a good deal.  Men are miserable, women report the lowest levels of happiness in decades, and yet we can't question whether this is all working for us.[/quote]

I think the answer is that men should do more.  I mean, people can decide what’s best for them, but if you have two people working then you can’t rely on one of them for most other tasks, too.[/quote]

It's not even just the tasks. It's all the planning and organizing that they somehow can't see and do not help with. My husband and I split most chores evenly. For example, we switch off weeks of meal planning and cooking meals. So it's split 50:50, and he is quite proud of himself for this. But he seems to think a magical elf manages the pantry and restocks to cooking oil and seasonings, who cleans out the fridge and scrubs the shelves, who wipes down the counters and mops the floor, etc. But if you ask him, he does half the work of feeding our family.[/quote]

Stop patting yourself on the back. He probably does things that you don't even notice or register either. [/quote]

Yeah, we had that dynamic.  For a while I used to do all kinds of things around the house.  I realized my wife didn't care.  In the middle of remodeling the bathroom, "But there are dishes to do, take my trash out."

I think she realizes this was a mistake now, because I just quit doing those things.

She also has very poor "house skills", like even making a bed or making sure the house has good towels or other home goods.  She's realized how annoying that is also and has gotten somewhat better at that.

She also realized she doesn't want a career and only works a part time job, mostly show she can nominally pay for preschool, so she doesn't have to watch the kids.   This is annoying.  I mean my income alone keeps in the middle class, but we could be doing much better, but now she expects me to run the kids around in addition to making my job much more of a priority.[/quote]

Your post drips with condescension. Truly indicates what you feel in your head. So...your wife is poor at "house skills"....how good are you at birthing kids? Or being pregnant? I would consider those house skills. Either way, I'm glad that she "has gotten somewhat better at that". I hope you trained her how to fold the sheets just so. I am glad you are not my husband because then I would have been a divorcee. [/quote]

Your post makes me better understand why men are getting less interested in marriage. His wife doesn't contribute equally to the household. That sucks regardless of gender. [/quote]

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