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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The only reason planned economic systems with collectivism as the fundamental matrix (what simpletons refer to as “communism”) hasn’t been 100% successful is that frankly, the right people haven’t been in charge.

Collectivism is THE ideal economic model. There is nothing more egalitarian than collective ownership of the means of production and no need for private property. This isn’t subject to debate.

But the right people haven’t been in charge. That is a failing of the people, not of collectivism. [/quote]

No, it's fully subject to debate and you don't know what the F you're talking about.

Central planning of economies is the death knell.  Communism and collectivism have never been successful anywhere they have been tried.

Command economies can't be properly planned because there is never enough data to properly distribute goods and services efficiently. It's impossible.

That leads to shortages, resources that go unused, unintended consequences, and demand destruction at a much faster rate than any westernized economy.

BTW, we haven't had Capitalism in the U.S. for one hundred years.

There's is nothing more efficient than the hidden hand of market economics.

'The pretend to pay us and we pretend to work." - Soviet Political Joke[/quote]

I love how you tell PP that he doesn't know what the F he is talking about and then proceed to spew a bunch of utter nonsense not supported by any historical account. [/quote]

I was the PP who wrote the post praising collectivism and planned economies and eliminating private property in favor of state ownership of everything, and “the only reason it hasn’t worked so far is the right people haven’t been in charge”.

I’m a troll. I was just putting the stupidest cliches I know of about communism down in one post, just to see if some idiot would agree with me - and of course someone did.

I need to dumb down my game for y’all. It’s pointless to be sarcastic when people start agreeing with you. [/quote]

Well, the idiot is you.

I've lived the communist experience with a leader in charge who was, yes, a dictator but a benevolent one. Things worked for a very long time and people still look back fondly on the years that he was in charge.

You think WAY too highly of yourself, the self-proclaimed troll. [/quote]

Then why did you come [i]here[/i]? Why didn’t you opt to stay in your worker’s paradise where you can laugh and look down on us poor unfortunates who haven’t seen the benefits of a benevolent communist dictator, as you describe this person.

Why did you come here? Why do you stay? Why aren’t you going back?

There has to be some reason. [/quote]

Such a typical, ignorant, American thing to say. One, no one was laughing at you. Why are you so fragile and insecure? We are discussing communism and how it might have been implemented around the world. I simply listed things that worked well for over 50 years for several million people. If you can’t learn anything from experiences of people commenting why are you here? To yell into the internet abyss?

I left because after Tito died the economy went to shit and people who tried to fill the void left by him made the country fall apart. I lived through full on war for 4 years and lost everything.

I’m sure you’ll come back with something super insightful again. 😂😂[/quote]

So you steadfastly maintain the US sucks, but you came here and aren’t leaving.

That’s the takeaway. [/quote]

It sounds like you would be happier in Sarajevo, fortunately unlike the Soviet bloc we don’t have emigration restrictions and you are free to leave and establish workers paradise in Bosnia. See ya. [/quote]

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