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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Agree Midd is in decline as is Trinity and Wesleyan. Colby on an upward trajectory![/quote]

Colby was ranked #11 in USNews in 2022. Last year it was 25. Doesn't sound much like an upward trajectory to me![/quote]
Colby just got a ton of money. But US News does not decide things on this front, in any event. Observers know which way certain colleges are “moving.” Midd is not in the decline because of US News methodology, but because of its own, well-documented issues.[/quote]

Well discussed and well understood.

There are no “issues” at Middlebury but there was a well documented change the USNWR methodology regarding which IPEDs number was used for determining the student population which had a big impact on their resources per student calculation because the using the 12 month number added 2200 summer language school kids to their population when calculating resources per student. Forbes made a similar change and Middlebury is no longer ranked as a small school though it did not affect their overall ranking in Forbes.

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So their resources per student were accurately tabulated and that’s bad? [/quote]
Midd endowment per student - not counting these summer kids - is just not on the same level as top SLACs. WASP, Bowdoin, and Grinnell have way over a million in endowment per student;Washington and Lee and Wellesley, a million; Claremont McKenna and Smith, over 750k; Davidson, Hamilton, Carleton, 600k; and Midd, Colby and Reed below 500k (but Colby just got wealthier). https://www.collegeraptor.com/college-rankings/details/EndowmentPerStudent/[/quote]

Raising their endowment is important to them I am sure but your math is quickly falling off. Middlebury’s endowment per student already surpasses Cornell and Columbia. In two years when they are finished shedding MIIS it will surpass Hamilton in the NESCAC as well as Brown and probably Penn. I think that they will be ok.[/quote]
Why is their raising endowment important? I thought you were saying it wasn’t.
In terms of math “falling off”, yes, they only need a $280 million donation in the next two years to equal Hamilton’s per capita. Maybe you could help?[/quote]

[b]They drop 800 students from their number in two years my little friend.[/b] Raising endowments is a key goal for all of these schools. Middlebury has made no secret about wanting to move up relative to their peers. I would be surprised if there was a school in their peer list who didn’t have a capital campaign going on. It is non stop for all of them.[/quote]
That number already is not factored into the per capita levels from the cite provided. The more you talk, the worse Midd looks.[/quote]

? Math isn’t your strong suit I guess.

That 800 students is the FTE graduate population at MIIS.[/quote]
That is 500, not 800: https://nces.ed.gov/collegenavigator/?q=Monterey&s=all&id=119058#enrolmt
That brings Midd per capita to 525k; Hamilton’s is still 83k per student more. So, yes, Midd only needs a $220 million donation in the next 2 years to compete with Hamilton (assuming Hamilton’s stays the same, which it won’t) on the endowment front. $250 minimum to be safe. To help you more with Math — and you need help — you would need to pay me. Don’t do that: donate to Midd. They need it! Guess all of their Wall Streeters are cheap…[/quote]

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