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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][b]False accusations are not as rare as people think.[/b] Both things can be true - that false allegations happen and ruin the lives of young men and also that young women do not always come forward or are not always believed when they have been assaulted. Both are problems and can ruin lives.

The main motives for false allegations are alibi/cover up/ avoid trouble, anger/revenge, or self need - attention/emotional pain/manipulation/regret.

I know 3 men who were falsely accused. One - the young woman was being sexually abused but not by the person she accused, in another it was a student who was in foster care and had many emotional issues and when a male teacher put boundaries in place and she felt rejected / hurt, she accused him, and the third was during an ugly divorce and she later said she didn't know why she said it and regretted it immediately but didn't know how to take it back as she didn't want to look like a liar / ruin her reputation,[/quote]

No one said they are "rare" but that they are the exception. And in line with false accusations for other crimes. You've given anecdotes. Fine. I have many on the other side (women, including myself, who were sexually abused but never came forward or who were not taken seriously). But the stats are what they are and this is not a significant issue compared with ACTUAL assaults. It's just not. That does not diminish how serious it is for individual men falsely accused, however. [/quote]

What do you mean it’s not a significant issue compared to actual assaults? Stats are 5-10% are false accusations among reported cases, definitely not an exception, with many egregious cases making it to the news.

The reverse is that only a small number of sexual assault cases (5%) result in conviction, because of lack of evidence, he said she said, misunderstanding etc. If you consider these to be ACTUAL assaults, false accusations are not that insignificant.

I like how you end up with how it shouldn’t diminish how serious it is for falsely accused men, yet the point of your post is to diminish and dismiss the issue. It is significant, that’s why due process exists![/quote]

Typical of DCUM making men more of a victim than women. And cite you proof? Because all that is out there is to the contrary- stats and anecdotal. Is it an issue for any false allegation? Yes? Is that happening at a rate more than actual assaults that are REPORTED? No. Many many assaults are not reported and this thread is indicative of why. So don’t be obtuse. [/quote]

Google the stats yourself, the numbers are correct. Reported assaults encompass false accusations, convictions and cases that are dropped. False accusations and convictions have comparable numbers, but it is also true that assaults are underreported.

It is quite stupid to dismiss a crime based on how often it happens and the gender of the victim. What is your point here, since false accusations are comparatively more rare they should be dismissed? Or men are less of a victim because of the frequency of the crime?

It’s as simple as due process and innocent until proven guilty.[/quote]

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