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DEI = racism.

Are democrats seriously still supporting racism??[/quote]
I've heard both Kamala Harris and Ketanji Brown Jackson referred to as "DEI hires" by people like you. But which is more racist - the fact that they are the first Black female VP and SC justice respectively, or the fact that nobody who occupied those positions between 1789 and 2021 was a Black female?[/quote]

NP. People said that because Biden literally said he was going to choose a woman of color for each of those positions. Why didn’t he just say he was going to choose the best person &  then pick them anyway? He is partially at fault for this perception.

And yes of course racism & sexism kept people like them out for centuries.[/quote]

That's the whole problem.  There are TONS of qualified women and people of color who could serve as Vice President or SCOTUS justices, it's racism and acting like it's somehow unfair for any of them to be chosen that has kept them out of office.[/quote]

Brett Kavanaugh isn’t exactly the finest legal mind of the 21st century, but nobody questioned his fitness on the grounds of his skin color or gender.  It was just assumed he was qualified.

White men get a free pass on this stuff.  If a black woman is chosen: “why didn’t he pick the best person?”  The unexamined assumption there is that the real best person is somewhere out there among the ranks of white men, getting unfairly passed over.

Kavanaugh was elevated by the Heritage Foundation and chosen by Trump to enact a specific right wing judicial agenda that has nothing to do with how smart he is or how unbiased he is or where he went to law school.  If Biden decides he wants a black woman on SCOTUS, it’s because he wants to diversify the bench with different perspectives.  From that standpoint, such a candidate is indeed the best person.[/quote]

You’re not getting it. Choosing a black woman is perfectly fine. Choosing a person BECAUSE she is a black woman is no better than choosing someone BECAUSE he is a white man. I know you likely don’t agree with that statement. But that’s how many Americans feel— that choosing people based on race doesn’t become “right” just because it’s a different race being chosen. [/quote]
Prior PP is saying the woman was chosen because, in addition to being very well qualified, she has a background that gives her certain perspectives that are not represented on the bench but are a big part of our population. It’s not “BECAUSE she’s a black woman.”[/quote]

Society is deciding that black skin inherently gives “certain perspectives that are not represented” when individual experience is determined by far more complex factors than skin color. I know plenty of black women who toe the line for wealthy and corrupt elements in our society and I know some white men who have very unique experiences that would be an asset for any organization. If you just look at skin color then you would miss this. [/quote]

DEI was never about "just looking at skin color."  The idea is that you take the qualified candidates, and if there are more than one candidates who are meet or exceed the qualifications in a similar way, THEN you look at demographics.  So that DOES NOT mean passing over the uniquely qualified person who would be an unrivaled asset to the organization.[/quote]

Ok, then explain why black students at Harvard have dramatically lower test scores than Asian and white students. In your version of events, they'd all be roughly the same. [/quote]

Because DEI was elevated above merit.  The premise was that those individuals with lower test scores were the result of poverty, discrimination, lack of opportunities, etc... The assumption was that if they were given the same opportunity as those who had earned it through meritorious achievement, they would perform the same.  Statistics showed the exact opposite result.[/quote]

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