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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This thread is so sad.

Men are mostly a sad bunch. [/quote]
Most men are decent humans. Some men are monsters.[/quote]
43% of men have admitted to sexually assaulting someone since the age of 14. How many men do you think didn't admit to it?

"some" men aren't monsters. At least half of all men are sexual predators. So no. Not most are decent. Most are the monsters. [/quote]
43% of men where? 43% of how many men? Where was this study conducted? A prison? Please sight the study where they interviewed every single man in the world or just in America. I will reiterate: MOST men are decent people. SOME men are monsters.[/quote]
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4455931/

Google is free. No need to be a rape apologist. Not a good look for a woman. [/quote]
The first study they cite includes 300ish college males. This isn't about forcible rape. It is about coersion and tactics those makes use to obtain sex. I am not a rape apologist. I am a critical thinker. [/quote]

NP but you're moving the goalposts.  You asked for substantiation of PP's statement that 43% admitted to sexual assault, now you're saying it doesn't count if it isn't forcible rape.  That's . . . pretty much the definition of rape apology, sorry to tell you.[/quote]
43% of 300 is 129 males who admitted to using coersivevtactics to have sex with a female. Even the authors of the study stop short of calling it forcible rape. As an aside, there is a difference between relenting and regretting and being physically forced.[/quote]

Coercive does not mean *just* verbally persuading. It goes beyond that and it's repulsive and sometimes there is an unspoken threat that the female picks up so she's operating from a place of fear. In that situation, I would not characterize it as she "relented" and now "regrets".

This is what happened to me when I was 17 and a college freshman. My car wouldn't start one night. A friend of a classmate who I had seen around campus a few times offered to give me a ride. Instead of taking me where I wanted to go, he drove to to the most dangerous part of town to a dark, deserted parking lot filled with broken glass, no street lights and questionable people roaming the nearby streets looking to buy/sell drugs & sex.

Back there, out of vocal reach of anyone, he tried to make a move. I rejected him. He told me if I didn't agree, he would take my clothes, shoes and wallet and leave me all alone to find my way back. I probably would have been raped multiple times if not killed.

So, did I relent or did he physically force me?

In my 30's, a coworker and I were discussing this type of thing. She told me in college, she and another girl agreed to go with 2 guys across the border to Tijuana to have a nice night dining, drinking and dancing. The 2 guys somehow had access to a room and started pressuring my coworker and her friend. They rejected their advances and said they were just there for fun. The guys threatened to take their IDs and leave them behind in Mexico if they didn't agree.

So, did they relent or did the guys physically force them? [/quote]

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