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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote]Anonymous wrote:
How do you feel about public schools, OP?
I’m guessing you are also like:
Why should I pay to educate someone else’s child?
Why should I pay for roads I don’t drive on?
Why should I pay for fire stations that will likely never benefit me?
Stop enslaving me to pay for schools, roads, and emergency services I don’t use, waah waah waah

I’m guessing if a poor person breaks their arm, you want them to die of sepsis? Too bad for them, huh.

No, I accept that the democratic process and policies of our lawmakers have led to public schools. I would vote for public schools any day and support paying for them. I understand that roads are fundamental to the economy and support them. Fire stations - the same. I would even support a bond measure to raise money (weirdly some municipalities rely on volunteers to put out fires, yet provide free housing to illegal immigrants).[b] I am not opposed to some level of healthcare, but what is provided on medicaid is far above what I would support. Neighborhood clinics for preventive health and life, limb, and eyesight emergent care seems appropriate - and some program for children who need care and treatment for illnesses. Definitely not some insurance scheme that enriches for-profit health systems.[/quote][/b]

Okay. So the title of your thread is misleading. You obviously believe in some healthcare as a right. So what level of care do you consider "above what you would support"? Do you believe that Medicare is an "insurance scheme"? Please cite the for-profit health systems that are being enriched by Medicare and how that enrichment is taking place. Sounds like you may be worried about fraud (which definitely needs to be prosecuted). 
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I should have distinguished between medicare and medicaid - medicare, since beneficiaries pay for it, is very different than medicaid going to able-bodied adults and immigrants.  It is not a right, but a program.  It could be cut, and there would be electoral consequences.  The US taxpayer should not be providing government backed health insurance to immigrants either legal or illegal.  Visas should be revoked if a visa holder applies for government paid-for insurance.  Illegal immigrants should receive no insurance like benefits.  They do not receive medicaid, but states that provide illegals their version of medicaid get to offset the money they spend to do this with federal matching.  [/quote]

It is being cut, and there are no consequences.

There are no benefits of this kind going to illegal immigrants.

For legal immigrants, if they have naturalized and are working and paying into Social Security and have achieved their minimim quarters, then why wouldn't they be able to receive benefits from the system?[/quote]

Wow talk about a false argument. Undocumented immigrants can not use Medicaid or Medicare. They just can’t. So you have no argument.

Let’s argue about what type of cheese the moon is made of. This would be a much more honest and productive use of time.[/quote]

I know rich immigrants neighbors who bring elderly relatives I and immediately claim that relative is indigent, get them on Medicaid, then laugh about how easy it was to do so. [/quote]

You’re THIS CLOSE to understanding.[/quote]

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