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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Accidentally bump into an old thread while looking for certain information.
The thread tittle is about TJ class of 2019 college admissions result (I can send a link if it needed to believe).
It is basically copy cat of this thread, only that it was still old admission system. Same type of comment “not impressive” or “base school is better”, cheating comment and bunches of snarky comments and racist tone.

Admissions can change many times, but people character is impossible to change.

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Cheating is a common issue at HSs everywhere. It has been openly acknowledged as an issue for TJ for more than a decade.

[u]Articles from 2006 to 2023 about cheating at TJ:[/u]
https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/2006/05/03/va-principal-issues-apology-for-remarks-span-classbankheadlinking-ethnicity-and-cheating-was-wrong-fairfax-leader-saysspan/01cfcf99-d02f-4c11-b68e-e4997cf6d972/
https://www.tjtoday.org/1613/opinion/one-question-pervades-classroom-teaching-and-school-activities/
https://www.tjtoday.org/4390/opinion/teachers-need-to-enforce-tj-honor-code/
https://www.tjtoday.org/19690/uncategorized/integrity-violation-lecture-reminds-students-of-the-cost-of-cheating/
https://www.tjtoday.org/27956/uncategorized/midterms-week-breeding-grounds-for-rampant-cheating/
https://www.tjtoday.org/32413/opinion/stop-idolizing-elite-colleges/
https://www.tjtoday.org/36291/features/the-inside-of-integrity/

[u]DCUM anecdote about widespread cheating from 2013:[/u] 
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/60/329043.page
"TJ parent here - At back to school night several of the teachers described the steps they take to prevent cheating. [b]A science teacher said that they have learned there are so-called "tutors" who have large files of all the old tests given at TJ. [/b]So this year they are creating every test from scratch, with 4 completely different versions as the classes meet during 4 different time periods."

[u]Interview with former TJ principal in 2006 (also discusses "gaming" the admissions test):[/u]
https://www.washingtonian.com/2006/09/01/thomas-jefferson-high-school-interview-with-principal-elizabeth-lodal/
[i]"Unfortunately, T.J. has helped spawn a huge test-preparation industry in this region. Look in the newspapers—you’ll find test prep for both the SATs and for T.J.

Some parents start this T.J. prep early. Some local churches have Sunday-school classes focused on getting into T.J. that start in kindergarten and go through elementary school. Wealthy parents can spend $600 a pop to learn how to get in here.

Isn’t there something wrong with that?
Yes.

[b]Why don’t you constantly change the exam so no one can game it?
The admissions office tries to do that."[/b]

[b]"How pervasive is cheating?
Students tell me it’s more pervasive than adults know.[/b] It is a huge challenge for teachers and principals—not just here but at every school.

Given our student population, [b]cheating techniques can be very sophisticated[/b]. We’ve tried to create an antidote via a robust ethics program. We bolster students offended by cheating and strengthen everyone’s will to resist it. We hold up ethical models and highlight positive examples.

When I got here, the first group of students to visit me were [b]student leaders offended by the pervasiveness of cheating[/b]. They had drafted an honor code. The school eventually adopted that honor code, written by students. The student government is now investigating the creation of an honor council to help enforce and strengthen the honor code.

Our program Big Sibs matches every freshman with a “sibling”—an upper-level student who helps navigate the waters. Another initiative, Building a Better Community, or BBC, assists with programs about ethics. We feature ethics panels of highly respected students and adults who speak out against cheating."[/i]

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Yeah my point is, its been going on for years. It is not recent, and regardless old or new admission certain people always have something to attack.

I wish people just leave this kids alone, regardless they went to Harvard or local CC or not even go to colleges. That is their lives and we know nothing. It is not ours to judge them[/quote]

We are not judging them.  We are judging the new admissions system.  [/quote]

No, the old thread about 2019 admissions thread is the same, judging how the results of 2019 is not impressive, base school better and such. People always judge![/quote]

Can you provide the link?[/quote]

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/809712.page[/quote]

We are comparing this year's admissions to previous year's admissions for evidence of whether the new Admissions process for getting into TJ affected college outcomes.  2019 college admissions thread doesn't have that.  The differerences in college admissions were moderate.[/quote]

The changes were relatively minor and mostly just leveled the playing field to not favor affluent schools as much. This was blown way out of proportion by the crazy parents who wished buying admission were still possible.[/quote]

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