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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]OK, if people really want major college sports to operate like the way college club sports work, where you select a student body sports blind and the students self-organize into teams, you could have student bodies that seem to match the major sports teams in terms of admissions.

Since that is not what America wants, it is not what America gets.

So PLEASE think of D1 stadium sports alumni the same way some people think of affirmative action admits, except worse. They didn't earn the degree. They gave the kids bread and circuses and were supported far enough to not fail out. Their degrees should have asterisks and all that.[/quote]

Why do you care? Elite US colleges are educating young people to be leaders in society in many different areas. They are looking for students who are outstanding in numerous areas, not only pure academics.

Test scores and GPAs don’t necessarily show how “meritorious” an applicant is. Leadership qualities, in particular, are not measured by test scores.

Again, I am puzzled as to why so many people appear to be confused about this. 
[/quote] This doesn't explain why athletes in NCAA sports are given preference over those in non-NCAA sports. The former are an institutional priority, while the latter is not.[/quote]

Yes, and that is fine. The school has their reasons for wanting to create a class community of a particular composition, and that is their right.

I don’t understand why people have a problem with this.
[/quote] I don't have a problem with it, I have a problem with people making up false rationalizations for why, such as "leadership".[/quote]

It’s odd that you think that “leadership” is some sort of rationalization. It is not at all uncommon for athletes, particularly those involved in team sports, to be good leaders- they tend to go on and use those leadership qualities as adults in their jobs and also in giving back to their communities as volunteers. (And, sure, non-athletes can also be leaders, but we’re talking about athletes here. Team sports really bring out and enhance natural leadership qualities.)

Athletes are an addition to the mix of types of students at a school. No one would want a class to consist entirely of musicians or theatre kids or math whizzes or history buffs or . . . athletes. Schools want kids with a mix of interests and talents. And that’s who the admissions people work on bringing together. 
[/quote] Can you please explain why someone with an excellent 10k time but mediocre marathon time is so much of a better leader than someone with a mediocre 10k time and excellent marathon time that the former deserves a special admissions advantage that the latter does not get? Why are those who wrestle such better leaders than those who practice Jih Jitsu or Judo that the former deserve a special admissions advantage the latter do not get, above and beyond what the AOs would normally give them for such an activity?

If it was really about leadership, there would be no need for privileging some sports over others, and AOs could instead holistically view all sports based on the perceived leadership value they provide without needing to be biased in favor of some sports over others.[/quote]

It does not make sense.  College sports actually make no sense at all.  But they are absolutely a part of University culture and tradition for a great many universities in this country.

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