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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Just want to reiterate that UVA rush is going to be very competitive for an oos girl, and rush at Penn less so.  I was rush director at my sorority decades ago and am shocked at how much rush is different than I experienced.  At UVA, very superficial things that she has little control over, like the high school she attended, will matter (strong preference for private schools and feeder affluent public schools) as well as how much she fits a sorority’s type in terms the way she dresses and looks.[/quote]

Parent of two daughters who graduated from NOVA public high schools who attended UVA and who both rushed.  Neither had any problem getting the bids that they wanted.

Assuming that OP’s daughter has half the personality and likeability that OP says she has, she will have no trouble rushing at UVA.  
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Your dds are probably at sororities with lots of other girls from their high schools.  It’s a lot harder for oos girls.[/quote]

Wrong.  Both of my daughters’ sororities were full of OOS “girls” and not a single one of them were from their same high school.  You really don’t know what you’re talking about.[/quote]

I know oos girls who were very social who were shut out of the top tier sororities at UVA.  Perhaps we just are coming at it from different perspectives, or your dd’s were willing to go beyond the “top” sororities (which I think is great, but many girls aren’t).

It would be a shame to chose UVA predominantly for its Greek life and not have it work out.  I’ve seen this happen to girls at many southern schools.[/quote]

Ha ha ha, now I get it. You are suggesting that it only it’s worth rushing if you can get into one of the so-called “top“ sororities, and you’re suggesting that OP‘s daughter can’t do that.

Do you really think that there aren’t social tiers at the Ivies?  Are you really saying that OP’s daughter can’t make it socially at UVA being from out of state, but can just swoop into the top of the social scene/tier at Penn and Columbia? What a joke.[/quote] 
Ivies do not have the same "tiers" and social structure as UVA and other southern publics. Theyre completely different with more room for more variety of women socially, yet the ivies do carry an expectation that everyone go above and beyond: classes, clubs, research, outreach.... it is constant focus on the next step, though tbf that is no different than hopkins and stanford. That culture leads to the high success rate of graduates. Almost everyone is super-bright, quirky/nerdy kids are more accepted, academics are especially lauded, yet coasting is frowned upon. UVA is less intense academically, yet more intense socially (albeit not as tiered socially as SMU, Tulane, Auburn...) [/quote]

Well, I don’t know anything about the Ivy social scene other than that Princeton has some exclusive eating clubs, but I have to figure that there are some pretty rich and connected students attending most of them and that some of them are living some pretty extraordinary and exclusive social lives that don’t typically include the masses.  I doubt that as a practical matter UVA is any different.

The bottom line is that UVA is not so stratified socially that you’re doomed to a miserable four years unless you’re a member of a “top” sorority.  Were that the case, the vast majority of UVA students would be miserable, which clearly isn’t the case considering that virtually no one transfers and nearly everyone graduates.

Yes, there will always be clubs that won’t have you as a member, but that’s a universal truth.  [/quote]

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