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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]UCs, Cal in particular, absolutely engage in social engineering. It’s very common to see kids in the top 5%, best ECs skipped over for someone in the top 20% because they meet a racial or socioeconomic institutional goal. UCs are not only test optional but they do not accept letters of reference from counselors or teachers. There is no verification of what you report on your app for admissions other than transcript and AP scores after you are accepted. You only have to report your AP score if you plan to use it for credit. This opens the door to massive cheating on ECs, awards, community engagement, where/if your parents went to school etc. UCs do not care if lie.
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The above is flat out false and easy to see if you have access to your schools data.

If you are at a good public or private your first hurdle for a top UC is being 'local' ELC (top 9% in your school). If you do not achieve this your chance of getting in drops dramatically. You don't have to add it anywhere, your school is required to compute and report it. It will be on your UC app for all to see. This is a big hurdle at really competitive schools which is why so many get shut out. After that you will also be assigned a ranking based on the zip code/census tract where you live to score your socioeconomic level so poor kids going to a catholic school on financial aid will have the advantage of a good education along with being recognized as poor. This will give you a shot if you are outside of local ELC (i.e. getting state ELC which is top 9% in the state).

When it all shakes out there is nothing surprising at a top school; the kids with top GPAs and test scores (even though they aren't seen) end up with really good chances of getting in (at my kids school you could see that above a 1530 and 4.5 it was about 75% for both UCB and UCLA) but for everyone else it was about 8%.

The starting point for every school is ELC and for somewhere like Lynnbrook where 350+ kids apply and only 40 are ELC about 40-45 get in. At Mission San Francisco probably every kid that applied was ELC as well. The difference is that few non-ELC kids applied.[/quote]

moron, the UC's are banned by law from even looking at SAT for admissions.[/quote]

I’m not the PP that you immaturely called a “moron”, but I think the point is that top of the class is who generally gets in — especially at UCLA since it is generally the #1 desired UC these days.  And your point on the SAT is also correct though you could have stated it better.[/quote]

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